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Valnao@sh.itjust.works to Mildly Interesting@lemmy.world ·
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Japanese monks and emperors kept meticulous records of cherry blossom festivals for 1,200 years. They accidentally built the world's longest climate dataset

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Japanese monks and emperors kept meticulous records of cherry blossom festivals for 1,200 years. They accidentally built the world's longest climate dataset

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Valnao@sh.itjust.works to Mildly Interesting@lemmy.world ·
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  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    Is there a difference in tone or meaning between accidentally and inadvertently? I feel like accidentally means they did something that was a bad thing.

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      Mr Bob Ross would like a word…
      I agree with you on inadvertently, but accident, if I’m not mistaken would generally considered something where you do not inherently attribute blame. At least thats what I recall being justification for making the change in UK in calling traffic ‘incidents’ incidents instead of accidents several years back. Dunno if it stuck though.

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        UK in calling traffic ‘incidents’ incidents instead of accidents several years back. Dunno if it stuck though.

        Wait is that real? I thought it was just a joke when it was said in Hot Fuzz

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        Interesting. Although I still maintain that accident bears a negative connotation, even though blame isn’t necessarily a factor. As if the outcome was a negative thing, rather than a positive, as in this case.

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        incidentally feels better here than accidentally or inadvertantly

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      Hmm not necessarily, accidentally has no negative implication unlike accident usually has. In this particular case the meaning of accidentally is synonym with unexpectedly or by chance.

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        My question was a bit rhetorical. In my opinion there is a negative connotation to accidentally in this case as well. I would personally use a different word. 👍

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      They accidentally became climate change wackos supporting a communist agenda to make everyone gay and push taxes supporting public transportation.

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      Accidents don’t have to be bad? Accident means just “not on purpose” it has no connotation either way

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        Right. When someone is accused of something, and they say “But it was an accident!”, that’s exactly what it means.

        But if you shit yourself and say “I had an accident.”, that’s not what it means. Or you call your parents and say, “I was in an accident.”

        It has different connotations and in this case I’m conflicted, and therefore I would’ve chosen a different word.

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          I had an inadvertent!

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      Aww, shit. Now there’s record all over the floor… I’ll go get the data bin…

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        You got the statistimop there as well? (I’m reaching…)

        Love the user name, by the way. 👌

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          Thanks! You can have it!

          Edit: I like eating poops. Yum yum.

          2nd Edit: @victorz@lemmy.world why would you write something that like???

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      Incidentally would be more accurate perhaps.

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        I looked up the definitions of incidentally and inadvertently, and inadvertently is a better fit IMO.

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      Was going to say this myself and then saw your comment. Totally agree. ‘Accidently’ practically implies that the record keeping itself only happened because some pencils happened to fall on paper. They did exactly what they intended to and used it for their own purpose. It just turned out to have a different purpose, too.

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        That’s an even better way of looking at it, to avoid “accidentally”. Great point!

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      I agree, but I think here “accidentally” is used in an ironic manner because this is of course not actually a bad thing.

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      I salute you. Few are those who take the time to find appropriate word for the meaning.

      • Victor@lemmy.world
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        🫡❤️

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      Depends on who you ask.

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        I’m asking someone who has insight 😅

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    “Kill them all. Steal their data.” - MAGA

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    Is that dataset up anywhere as a CSV?

    I’d really love to build a lesson around it!

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      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/date-of-the-peak-cherry-tree-blossom-in-kyoto.zip?v=1&csvType=full&useColumnShortNames=false

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      Same!

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    https://globalobserver.github.io/projects/cherry-blossom/index.html

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    Well, glaciers keep the longest climate datasets, it’s just in a format that takes some work to translate.

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    Link to a source would be nice.
    Seems interesting, but without a source it’s just noise.

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      Looks like FT to me. Also there are citations in the fine prints.

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    Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everyone knows climate is a hoax.

    /s.

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      Grind the whole planet into dust and show me one particle of climate. There’s no such thing

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    Doesn’t look like much of a trend from the thumbnail. It’s just noise. Cool dataset though.

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