do you?
Professionally? No
As a family member or friend? Yes
As a member of society? Barely
What’s the context of your question?
The point of asking a somewhat general question is that you can answer and interpret it how you like and experience responses you wouldn’t expect.
Which is what I got from you. By asking one question.
The mention of AI as an introduction suggests you may have a specific context in mind. If the question is so general, you don’t need to give irrelevant information. Asking “do you feel valued?” is enough, and the absence of context becomes obvious.
Then you answered incorrectly. Maybe you should have focused your response on that rather than ranting about OP post.
As a retired person: no, apart from by other retired people in the village, because we help each other out with our different skill-sets.
We still have a few friends but they are scattered; we meet mostly at funerals.
Politicians think we’re too expensive (healthcare, pensions, etc.) although they’re careful not to be too nasty, as apparently we vote more than other demographics. The fascists think we might vote for them (not a chance).
The young are busy with their own lives as they should be and so we are mostly seen as an inconvenience or, at best, a future inheritance. I’m fine with this: they’ve got it tough and we help where we can.
The AI crowd know we’re too old for that shit (we remember all the bubbles). We don’t buy much stuff either, so the capitalists and advertisers aren’t happy with us. The pub likes us but wishes we’d visit more often. The fund managers are going off us as our pension funds dwindle. I think the lady in the corner shop has a good opinion of us, although she thinks I buy too much beer.
Valued by my friends and family? Yes, very much so!
Value by society? No, not so much, but it’s mutual.
No.
I can’t find sustainable work. I don’t have a romantic partner. I’m old and now facing bleak years left on Earth.
Im young ish, but yeah. No one values me outside of my parents and siblings.
I’m staunchly anti gen ai. Yesterday, while I was 12 hours into a terribly paid illustration work, I had the sad realization that this really could have been over, and better than I could ever do in 5 minutes with a couple of fucking ai prompts. I nearly broke down crying. I guess I 'm just not seeing value in myself anymore. Maybe I’m just sad and stupid today. Idk … Sigh.
I don’t understand. If your work can be done quickly and well with a tool (AI), why don’t you use that tool and be done with your work quickly? Why does your heart break?
I’m a translator, so different type of gen ai but also heavily impacted. Here’s the thing, I enjoy translating with my brain and soul, finding nicely written stuff. Ai is flat, idiotic, makes mistakes but wrapped in a believable enough package that it’s hard to spot the errors.
So instead of spending an hour translating, I would spend ten minutes translating, then a random amount of time proofreading and looking for hidden mistakes, find stupid sentences translated as is or even sometimes saying the opposite of what it should be, and then spent a huge cognitive load on fixing that without breaking the barely good enough rest of text.
It’s usually not faster, or not by much, but it sucked all the pleasure out of the job by making me do another type of task.
Oh and the rates for ai translation is not even half that of human translation.
I personally chose to shut the business because I really wasn’t a translator anymore and was earning less anyway.
Even if it were faster, this isn’t the cognitive task I learned and enjoyed, this isn’t my craft and there is no pride in fixing shit from Large lying models. So your days feel pointless like a hamster on a wheel. No amount of money would fix that and as I said it doesn’t pay well anyway.
Im not op, but personally because AI is built on theft. As a creative i cant justify stealing to make my job easier. I know others are doing it but “if i dont steal it, someone else will” is bonkers reasoning
Not at all. I’m pretty sure, if I died now, it would take a few months for anyone to notice anything.
I can’t promise to miss you viscerally but I am pretty sure the rest of the universe would.
I don’t see how lol.
I mean, I haven’t had any contact with anybody in 4 months now. Other than the checkout person in the local shop. And I’m sure they wouldn’t care if I stopped going there.
Anyway, this is not a “woe is me” thing, I’m completely fine with this. I much prefer to be left alone lol.
And yet, you responded to this. What’s going on with you? Why do you think you are not valued? I value you.
Yeah, you value me because I answered your question. The question was “do you feel valued” and no, I don’t feel valued because I answered your question.
I don’t feel valued because I bring no value to anyone in my life. Internet strangers asking questions do not count into that lol
That sucks. What’s something that to you would feel valuable to do?
Anything, really. Work or whatever. But the crippling depression and anxiety disorder etc sort of gets in the way of all that.
That also sucks. I hope you find some work to do.
I don’t feel valued because I bring no value to anyone in my life. Internet strangers asking questions do not count into that lol
Well, sure it does. That’s the reason we’re all here, isn’t it? Maybe not for you in particular, but for the Lemmy community. Internet strangers asking questions that you then answer and spark discussion is kind of THE value that any of us bring to this place. People asking questions and having discussions and sharing their own perspectives and life experiences is like, 80% of the whole internet. It’s what brought us into the global awareness that we have today.
Well, doesn’t seem to work for me. Glad it does for you.
I gotta admit to one particular nightmare here
Setting up a home gym in my garage to hopefully remove my excuses …… but years back an acquaintance died while using his home gym in his garage, and was discovered by family. You don’t usually think of exercise as a deadly risk but it happens. Since I live alone, the nightmare is it would be a long time before I was discovered and that much more traumatic if it were family
Well theres a easy solution for that. Don’t get any of those pulley machine things. Just hand weights and a pull up bar. You don’t even really need anything else. Those machines are a waste of money.
Yeah none of that, but one of my kids is a pretty serious weightlifter, so I need some serious equipment for when they’re home from school for the summer.
And an exercycle for cardio when the weather isn’t good
Started with the cycle: a high end machine for dirt cheap off Marketplace. Then dumbbells (except they’re only up to 30 lbs and he uses higher). Most recently found a deal on an Olympic bar and plates. Now comes the hard part: benches and racks, and I’m running out of time to find them on Marketplace
Yes, outside of social media. I love my job, my friends, family and just try to enjoy my life.
But, then I use social media like Facebook or Instagram and the algorithm is really hardcore pushing the “AI is taking over engineering is dead!!” narrative. As an engineer that makes me feel terrible/not valued, even though I know it’s not true.
I basically just stopped using social media outside of this and reddit.
But, then I use social media like Facebook or Instagram and the algorithm is really hardcore pushing the “AI is taking over engineering is dead!!” narrative.
Ah, thanks. I had no idea what OP was talking about.
I don’t really miss social media. Lemmy is the only thing I would even consider social media. I’ve moved all of my family over to Signal and we don’t talk much. Which is fine. We exist as a family across all time zones at times.
I feel like the most worthless person in the world, generally and almost all of the time. Consequence of not getting along well with others plus not being hardworking enough to achieve anything.
And yet … you are clearly intelligent and effective at communication.
You’re here though
You reached my brain
That amounted to a thing, in milliseconds I’ve reflected speculated emphasized and replied
If that seems worthless it’s the eye of the beholder not the sentiment that’s invalid
I haven’t felt valued since 1981.
What happened in 1981?
My guess is birthday?
Take a look at most economic charts on the value of labor.
For sure. Mostly from friends and family, but also in the things I do and the projects I accomplish. It’s a wonderful life.
I think it is sort of sad that people took this as “valued by your employer”. Not sad for them specifically, but for the state of things. I am sure y’all are valued by your friends and family.
absolutely not. I have been out of work for close to two years. I feel unvalued. I feel like my education and experience is unvalued. I feel my society is saying. You should not contribute. We don’t want it. I feel its saying we do everything in a super automated low effort way but you should distinguish yourself but doing a bunch of manual things to make up for anything our automated systems does not do properly which is kinda everything. You should work very hard to prove your work should be compensated.
I will flip your question. All this AI none sense has made me value people more.
I value human musicians with passion and new interesting sounds; I value human visual artists and what they add to our graphical landscape I value journalists and just people putting themselves out there to share their honest opinion in a world so overtaken by propaganda and information wars; I value people who are trying to learn and teach new things, that want to do research and make sense of the world. And I value disagreeing and getting mad at people and saying dumb shit and doing dumb shit and realizing i have areas where i need to work on and improve myself. I value humans, and i wont waste my time on AI or LLM’s
I don’t really care if I’m valued, and i don’t care about systems of values, i barely have time to make and experience.
I don’t see the question flip. I value you. You are clearly intelligent. Tell me more about you and what is going on.
Literally watching a presentation right now where they quoted “Use AI intentionally, not as the only answer”
On the other hand my human knowledge is invalidated because my kpis focus more on how frequently I use ai than on what I do
In my real life, also mostly no. My kids are in college, so they mostly need their bills paid and I rarely see them in person
Wow. Paying your kids’ bills in college is so great if you can manage.
No
I feel like a mote of dust waiting to be vacuumed.
If you were indeed a mote of dust when you got vacuumed what would happen? Fast forward to the end of time. Would it be any different than what anyone else on this planet is going to experience?
For me the result makes no difference, but it’s more that there’s no living and there’s very little to do about it other than escapism (so, still nothing).
Them Bones by Alice in Chains comes to mind.
