Never given YouTube a dime and never will
deleted by creator
Revanced on mobile uBlock on firefox
I just do ublock on Firefox. do I need revanced?
if a wanna just use an app, revanced is awesome
ReVanced just allows you to ad block and sponsor skip via the YouTube app on mobile
Brave browser also works on mobile, including playing when another app is open or the screen is locked.
can donall that with revanced and also block shorts
I’m gonna pay you $0 to fuck off (with ublock)
Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).
Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.
I’m just so tired of the algorhythms. It’s like being in a cage mentally.
I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.
WDYM by “browsing through”? As in, you get different search results? Or a different start page with suggested videos?
Maybe I’m weird, but I never use that. Either I have a specific need (an instruction video, a specific song or video episode). Then I use the search. Or I want to see what’s new. Then I check the channels of creators I like.
If you use the platform like that (which is basically like Lemmy), it’s a lot harder to algorithmically lock you in. (I only use third-party clients like FreeTube and Newpipe though, which block most types of tracking and don’t require a Google account).
I mean the platforms suggestions for what their algorithm thinks you’ll like. My son’s suggestions look a lot different from mine. I’d like to see some of those kinds of suggestions on mine (mostly classic films), but I get lots of junk, so I end up watching junk, so it recommends more junk.
I want to get off this treadmill, and in to a different one.
I’ve tried to escape several times with no luck. I’ve deleted my entire history, views, comments, unsubscribed from channels, you name it. Within a day it looks like I never left.
Which browser and adlocker are you using?
I’m not seeing this at on Firefox w ublock origin
I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don’t think there’s a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.
Peer tube uses webtorrents, which for many reasons haven’t caught on. It’s still mainly centralized nodes with massive hosting costs. Torrents are the fully decentralized answer.
“Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”
The very definition of racketeering.
We could just ban advertising.
I’m for it.
Any form of advertising aside from maybe a press release to announce a new product/service, and also any form of commissioned sales.
Like Cuba!
That’s basically google’s main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it’s ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it’s free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.
They call it a double-sided economy.
I call it “let’s fuck everyone.”
Why the fuck am I looking at a picture of Will Ferrell and not Ricky?
Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.
I don’t pay anything. Just use newpipe/ublock/smarttube
Revanced and Tubular, for those who want more flavours.
I’ve said this a few times in various places, but I’m really surprised we aren’t allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely “free market” perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can’t I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?
Realistically I don’t think we’ll ever see that because it’s a fairly complicated. I don’t have any hard data, but I can’t imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a “good deal.” Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I’d bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we’ve gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you’re a company that serves ads).
That has to be built by all the people together
Not necessarily, like if it was YouTube you’d just deposit money and maybe set a maximum amount of money you’re willing to bid. Honestly most standard banner ads are from Google too, so they could handle that. For streaming services you’d need to set it up for each individually, but that’s no different from setting up billing for each of them. They wouldn’t need to talk to each other.
Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.
You wouldn’t prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they’re shown.
No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you’d spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.
I feel like you’re not getting the vision. It would be the same process as subscribing, but money just gets drained from a pool per ad instead of a flat monthly fee. It’s not something you’re seeing a popup for. And it would never cost 5x what an ad costs. It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad. To put that in perspective, ad impressions are bought in units of cpm which stands for cost per mille which is the amount they pay for one thousand impressions. That would be $4,000 cpm. That’s absolutely insane. That’s orders of magnitude more than what it is today. Nobody is ever going to spend that much to show you an ad unless it’s some crazy profitable, super targeted, ultra niche campaign.
The whole point of this thought exercise is to explore what companies make in a month from ads versus what they charge for a month of ad free service. People bid for your attention. I think I should be able to bid for it myself instead of paying some opaque, flat rate per month.
It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad.
I know I only say 5x to show just how cheap it would actually be to outbid advertisers.
Its much better to pay YouTube so the YouTubers get money based on what the audience wants, and not what the Advertisers want from Youtube.
Sounds like you’re describing Nebula
Nebula does not bring an audience like YouTube can, so its not a solution yet.
I think YouTube should have a free tier with limited watch minutes of low quality, not an advertising tier.
Nebula sounds great until you use it… At least on Android, it buffers randomly for no reason, doesn’t fallback onto audio-only if your screen is off, crashes, etc… it’s just not very nice to use
The perfect crime.
