Edit: As @bdonvr@thelemmy.club points out below

  1. This is just a mascot and is not a new logo
  2. The blog referencing Mozilla’s statement on the mascots gender says, (he/she/they/them/it), use whatever pronoun you prefer.
  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    59·
    16 days ago

    By the way this is NOT a new Firefox logo. It’s just the fox mascot drawing that may be used in other parts of the UI like the welcome screen after a new install, or on social media.

    The actual logo remains unchanged.

    On top of that nowhere in the announcement are the supposed pronouns mentioned: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/meet-kit/

    Actually the whole thing may be bullshit. Literally the only Mozilla reference I can find to Kit’s pronouns is a statement given to like one or two blogs, and it says that any pronoun is acceptable.

    Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

    That’s attributed to Mozilla here: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-has-killed-its-old-mascot-heres-what-the-new-cute-one-looks-like/

    All other references seem to be chuds on X claiming that it’s explicitly they/them and acting like Mozilla is making a big deal about that. As if it matters either way.

    If you had some kind of reaction to this post you’ve fallen for culture war bullshit propaganda, congratulations.

    • MrKoyun@lemmy.world
      2·
      16 days ago

      Its to funny how whenever a Mozilla brand related thing happens its clarified that the firefox logo is not being changed. In no other context of a product receiving a new mascot would a clarification be needed that the logo is still the same.

    • ApertureUA@lemmy.today
      11·
      16 days ago

      Not on topic but sure do wonder why they silently pulled the Dino 2 years (I think?) prior and made the browser look boring. I guess it was apart of the master plan to shove a new mascot there and make media attention, + furry bait.

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        16 days ago

        The dino represents Mozilla, not Firefox itself. And yes, for a while, Mozilla didn’t have the dino in its official branding, but it’s now back in there. The flag is a dino head. As per usual, significantly more drama was made about them “removing” the dino than it was worth.

  • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
    495·
    16 days ago

    What if… hear me out… what if we remove the focus on gender altogether? What if we stop engendering things that don’t have genders? Like logos… and behavioral attributes…

    • SaraTonin@lemmy.world
      191·
      16 days ago

      Since Mozilla actually didn’t and the post is based on a lie, I’ll say congratulations, your reaction is almost certainly what they were hoping for

      • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
        102·
        16 days ago

        You don’t think people childishly over-anthropomorphize a lot these days? Cause I do, and that’s what my comment was about.

        • SaraTonin@lemmy.world
          21·
          16 days ago

          I mean, if you can provide data which shows that anthropomorphisation - specifically the unwarranted attribution of gender to things which are genderless - is on the rise and can demonstrate, or even articulate what the real-world harm of this is, then maybe I will agree that ranting about it in response to a tweet from an anti-woke twitter user lying about it in order to stir up tired “culture war” arguments isn’t silly

          Perhaps we should also rant about the erosion of male-dominated spaces into spaces which are “lame and gay”, given that there are now women who play Warhammer?

          • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
            1·
            15 days ago

            Why would I have an issue with women playing warhammer?

            I’m explicitly saying that I think assigning things like warhammer (a genderless concept) as being for either men or women is stupid.

            The issue I have is everything being put into one of two categories that are essentially irrelevant.

            Gender is far less relevant than people make it; its emphasis is a long standing sociological trend that I hope can die as people feel more accepted and secure.

            • SaraTonin@lemmy.world
              1·
              15 days ago

              Again, the question is can you demonstrate that this is actually something that is increasing?

              The relevance of the second tweet is that it’s from the same person. They’re trying to get an angry reaction from people to help fuel culture war bullshit. And you provided exactly the reaction they were after

              There ** was** no “focus on gender”. They just pretended there was so that people like you would amplify the signal. You fell for it without first stopping to check whether or not it was true

    • NostraDavid@programming.dev
      21·
      14 days ago

      Just don’t go as extreme as trying to de-gender languages, like Spanish, which is a gendered language (as are several others):

      There is no latinx, only latina and latino. Whoever uses latinx unironically can fuck right off, for being an ignorance cringelord.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
      7·
      16 days ago

      Mozilla didn’t bring it up. The story is made up by right-wing trolls.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
    201·
    16 days ago

    The old one was also non-binary. Prove me wrong.

    (Honestly, I just don’t care. Load the web page and render some JavaScript already)

  • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    191·
    16 days ago

    Are telling me they fired the previous mascot to hire a gender minority? Smh

      • kshade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        16 days ago

        Firefox is another name for the red panda, but the Firefox browser has always used foxes as logo/mascots. Before that it was called Phoenix, maybe that’s why they decided to just use another fire-related animal name without thinking about it too much.

    • DrQuickbeam@lemmy.world
      1·
      15 days ago

      Quantum computing yes, with qubits. But also tenery computing with trits, and probabilistic computing with p-bits. Analog computers probably fit in this category too.

      Probabilistic computing will probably become big before quantum computers, because it’s a natural fit for probabilistic LLMs. Lots of work being done in this hardware field with photonics, neuromorphic and thermodynamic chips.

      • humorlessrepost@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        15 days ago

        That’s actually a pretty complex question. Are they even capable of conceptualizing their own internal model of themselves as it compares to their species’ gender norms?

        Since they’re not social species, I’d be very surprised if they could.

  • Owl@mander.xyz
    10·
    16 days ago

    Because it was what before? Why do we care about the gender identity of the fox mascot of a web browser?

    Don’t answer, please