I’ve noticed an uptick in the number of pro-AI posts on this platform.

Various posts with titles similar to “When will people stop being afraid of AI” or “Can we please acknowledge AI was very needed for X

Can’t tell if its the propaganda machine invading, or annoying teenage tech-bros who are detached from reality.

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    12 hours ago

    The kind of people who make hating AI part of their identity are pretty rare in the real world. Lemmy just creates the illusion that this loud minority’s views are way more common than they actually are.

    And as always, the “pro-AI” people aren’t as much for it as the haters are against it. It’s not a binary thing between the two extremes. Every real person I’ve talked to about AI has had a pretty neutral view on it and is usually well aware of its limitations. Even the ones who lean heavily on it aren’t as passionate about it than the haters are.

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      Your view is the exact opposite of reality given the number of AI Data centers that are being delayed and just outright stopped by local communities.

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        I don’t think the people who don’t want AI data centers in their backyards are motivated by hatred toward AI. It tends to be mostly driven by things like environmental worries and energy and water demand.

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          “I don’t think people that are motivated to catch murderers are motivated by their hatred of murder. It tends to be mostly driven by things like no liking dead bodies or the fact Susan is no longer around.”

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            That obvious bad faith you demonstrate there is nothing but a confession about your own character.

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              One could say the same to you. What you described is inexorably linked to AI. Those things will always be a part of it. If AI was useful, or liked, by the general public – if it served a single useful function they appreciated, they would accept the consequences of its existence.

              People like driving in the US. It is destroying the environment. It poisons the water and air. It is expensive and raises taxes, hell most property tax that most people pay in the US goes towards road maintenance for cars, and nearly half of all utility expenses are due to the complexities of car-centric urban design. But people accept that.

              People are not accepting of AI. Period. It does not provide enough value for its cost.

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                NIMBYism is a real phenomenon. People just don’t want stuff like that built near them - including schools. It’s not because they’re against education. You’re projecting your own views on AI onto other people while ignoring all the other possible explanations for their actions. You can say it’s inextricably linked to AI, but you saying that doesn’t make it so. I’m sure some of those people think that, but I’ve seen no evidence that it’s the main driver of it.

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                  Trying to equate people who don’t want their environment and their homes destroyed by AI data centers with nimbys is such a brain dead take. Just truly despicable.

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                  While NIMBYISM is real, it’s not happening here. The protests in council meetings are not ‘we don’t want it here,’ it’s ‘we don’t want it anywhere in our state.’ Because the effects of AI are state wide reductions in resources.

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      I haven’t talked to a lot of people about AI, but I’m extremely skeptical, and my wife, who isn’t usually dialed into this sort of thing, fucking hates it. I’m not sure how that plays out across the general populace, but I’m inclined to think it’s pretty unpopular.

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        Bots are trying to gaslight to into thinking that slop acceptance is inevitable. It’s just bullshit. Everyone hates slop art. Everyone hates slop music. Everyone hates slop text. Everyone hates forced slop integration.

        The only people that like AI are the people that own the chatbots that want to deskill you.

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        People rarely arrive at these views independently - it’s always influenced by the people and environment around them. Kind of like how cigarette smokers tend to know lots of other smokers, while people who don’t smoke hang out with other non-smokers.

        I’m not claiming nobody hates AI or that there’s no valid reasons to oppose it. All I’m saying is that the impression of how widespread that hate is - the one platforms like Lemmy give - isn’t exactly representative of the real world.

        Hate is an extreme emotion. Those kinds of emotions are rarely motivated by reason alone, so it often looks more like an ideological stance than a purely rational one. People caught up in strong emotions aren’t exactly known for thinking clearly. There’s a well-known quote about facts not caring about people’s feelings, but I think it’s the other way around: feelings don’t care about facts.

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      The kind of people who make hating AI part of their identity are pretty rare in the real world. Lemmy just creates the illusion that this loud minority’s views are way more common than they actually are.

      Yup, essentially every office worker at my company is pro-ai whereas shop workers have a bit more distain for it.

      I got asked to organize shop drawings into categories so that they can feed their LLM data on the different types of products we produce, so long as it’s not someone’s personal information It genuinely doesn’t bother me.

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      AI hate is such a spoiled white people issue. They just don’t understand the value proposition because they already got their cake and ate it too.

      Here in SEA LLMs have been life changing for people yet we should be upset because some corporate logo designer is losing their job?