The people before us weren’t perfect. Their mistakes are blueprints to learn from and build a better world

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    Plus, China has billionaires. Any truly non-capitalistic country wouldn’t have ~~ billionaires~~ oligarchs. Nor would they have factory workers working for 75 hours per week.

    I would define a transition from capitalism to socialism as
    Merchants & lawyers out of power
    and engineers (laborers) & academics into power,
    which is what China has.
    The US isn’t failing true capitalism while still secretly being feudalistic,
    just because land lords and TV evangelists exist,
    while George Bush Jr, eldest son of George Bush Senior, became leader of the land in 2000.
    China just had a capitalistic phase due to Deng’s reforms,
    just like the US had a socialist phase due to Roosevelt’s reforms.
    Both of those did not last, because ultimately those in power are
    socialist for China (engineers & academics)
    and capitalist for the US (merchants & lawyers).
    The capitalist phase is already waning under Xi,
    just like the socialist phase did under Nixon did for the US.

    Considering that China is known for its heavy censorship and is in good cahoots with Russia, it isn’t racist to be suspicious.

    Lol. Do you really use such language with your own nation?
    If not, you are selective and that begs the question as to why
    and what pattern would emerge out of what you are selective to.
    I highly doubt you ever said something along the lines of
    “The EU/UK is in good cahoots with the US”,
    despite the fact that EU NATO chief Rutte openly called Trump “daddy”.
    I don’t see Putin doing that with Xi. Putin is not even running
    a socialist country.
    And Putin talks about a multipolar world in which Russia is one of those poles.

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        the easiest first step in ensuring that the usa and it’s ilk change their tune is to stop repeating the propaganda the usa already admitted to manufacturing thanks to the freedom of information act.

        i’m referring to stuff like this:

        I do think China has done some good, but it also doesn’t cancel out the sketchiness. I do agree that we could learn from China, but there’s also a damn good reason why their phones are banned in multiple countries.

        Not to mention, at least 250 people died during the Tianamen square incident. Some even estimate that thousands died, but it was at least 250 people.

        Plus, China has billionaires. Any truly non-capitalistic country wouldn’t have billionaires. Nor would they have factory workers working for 75 hours per week.

        if you’re to repeat their propaganda, you should atleast be getting paid for it.

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            3 months ago

            *i’m going to be doing graphene too and i’m waiting for motorola.

            My honest stance is that Russia and the US are just as bad as one another. Anyone who defends either of these two countries is suspect to me. I do think the fact that other Eastern European countries flinch at Russia is highly indicative that something clearly went wrong in the Soviet Union. However, I dislike that the CIA got involved in the dissolution of the USSR.

            this “both sides” argument is indicative of the extent to which western propaganda has impacted your thought process.

            the FOIA litmus test will easily tell you whether or not your source is biased. since the late 1970’s the FOIA has effectively been forcing the us gov’t to publicly admit that it manufactured propaganda about many things including north korea as an “authoritarian” state.

            if your source still characterizes north korea as an authoritarian state; then know that they’re giving you propaganda that the us gov’t has already effectively said is fake – in writing – since 1979.

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        Given that you think the US and Canada are only as bad as Russia, you’re certainly no hater of them; if anything, you have a rosey picture of them. Further supported by the fact you think 250 people dying in clashes 40 years ago even registered in comparison to the millions killed by the West since.

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        Criticizing USA doesn’t grant you a license to be racist. Also, feeling patriotic towards your own country isn’t wrong.