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No, I’m pretty sure I love them just the right amount
This is one of the things that frustrate me about Debian based systems. I know most distributions ship with lots of different tools to do the same job and you pick the one you like. But with something as fundamental as system timers it just feels wrong to me - when I want to change the timing of something I first need to figure out is the cron job real, or just a stub referring to the systemd timer, or visa versa.
So for a while I had removed cron from all my systems and fully committed to timers. Now I’ve decided I don’t like systemd and gone fully the other way.
I know it’s not that bad, but that’s the way my brain works - and I can remember getting really screwed up with some early Ubuntu systems.
Yeah, it’s never fun having both a legacy and a new system at the same time
Same with sysv and systemd job files. That seems to be mostly cleaned up now but for a while it was a PITA.
I dunno, systemd timers seem overcomplicated, cron is simple and universal (as in expected to be on every system install in one of its variants). You only need to learn how to set the time once and if you’re having difficulties setting up time you can use a website crontab.guru
Cron’s simplicity also makes it bulletproof, it just runs things on a schedule, that’s it. You can’t expect it to crash or give you any trouble.
I stopped reading when the claim that you shouldn’t use cron was followed with no supporting argument.
And the biggest problem I have with Cron is already solved by Anacron.
OK, yeah, this is awesome. I will definitely be making use of these tricks in future.
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Which is exactly the right amount.
I have yet to have a good experience trying to get anything to work with systemd.
Skill issue, my system works fine
Never heard of it
Never heard of it
It’s something coded up by a Microsoft employee. Or did he take his toys and move on again?
More and more, Linux is becoming Microsoft. “Oh, your system doesn’t run systemd? Good luck using anything else loser!”
Are you complaining that you need systemd to use systemd timers?
No, I’m complaining that things like gnome and KDE all expect systemd and all of its associated other poeterring BS.
I don’t run Linux AT ALL.
Tbh, there are lots of variety in linux if you don’t want systemd. Void in particular is really neat, been running it on one of my old 2017 xiaomi “air” notebook, i3 (back when lukesmith was a linux jesus). It’s amazingly stable for a rolling release, and very light compared to my other arch systems.
Because a lot of Microsoft employees contribute to Linux in their spare time to keep their skills sharp. It says something about a platform when you’re free to work on other platforms.
Also, Microsoft released Azure Linux.
