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Prepare to be inquisitioned for heresy. Not for insulting Christianity, but for calling Jesus a demigod.
Isn’t he both god and man, supposedly? Is that not the definition of a demigod?
A demigod is (roughly) 50% man 50% god. Jesus is supposed to be 100% man and 100% god. That’s less of a demigod and more of a contradiction.
Even if Jesus is 100% man and 100% god simultaneously cause reasons, that still means his composition is 50% god and 50% man, which still fits the Demi god definition.
That’s not a contradiction if they aren’t related. Is god a species? I don’t think so. It’s like saying a cat is 100% cat and 100% cute. They’re different things. He’s not a human-god hybrid. He’s a god who also happens to be human (at that time).
(Before people go assuming I’m arguing on the validity of all this, it’s stupid. I’m an atheist. The whole thing doesn’t really make sense. I’m just correcting a logical mistake.)
Yeah, but then we get into “what is human?” Last time I checked, humans can’t walk on water, raise the dead, or resurrect themselves.
I don’t think those are part of the definition of human. If we develop the ability to walk on water, for example, does that make us not human? I don’t think it would. Human is being of the species homo sapiens and nothing else. That does not definitionally preclude being a god.
So they’re just bad at math. Got it
Did someone say… heresy?
demigodgodgodschizoprenic
OTOH it’s not literally consuming blood and flesh, it’s more like doing it in a D&D game, but with the self-delusion that it’s real.
Well no, for Catholics it literally is. They’ve killed a ton of people of the years over this issue.
My mom forced me into catechesis, uh, they have this cookie they believe that symbolizes God’s body. Once the teacher mentioned it and a girl didn’t know what was it. When I replied “It’s a cookie”, the woman got angry at me and began saying calling it a cookie was “disrespectful”.
Calling that dollar store rice paper fiasco a “cookie” is an insult to every actual cookie I’ve ever haf
There isn’t even rice, it’s literally just water and flour.
I mean, Henry VIII spun off the Anglican church so he could properly call it a biscuit.
Former Catholic here. No, they believe “trans-substantiation” literally happens, but it literally doesn’t.
But ultimately, the statement being made is addressed to people who do literally believe that it is happening. If you don’t believe that, then the statement doesn’t apply to you, does it?
Furthermore, if they hold, as a requirement for eating the flesh and drinking the blood, that you must believe in its magic, then they are still people who seem to think that they are regularly practising literal cannibalism, and are not just okay with that, but are convinced that it would be morally wrong not to do so.
Throw as many words at it as you want, but literally happening means happening in real life, actually, physically, genuinely, for real. It doesn’t depend on belief.
An important note: I literally never said that it was literal cannibalism.
I claimed that catholics literally believe that it happens, and that they believe that the transsubtantiation literally happens, which is what you said in your original comment. The entire thesis of my comment is that it doesn’t matter at all that it doesn’t literally happen. All that is required for the point is that the original statement was addressed to people who believe in the literal nature. The statement is made to “you”, where “you” applies to the reader if and only if the reader “regularly consumes the blood and flesh of a demigod with elders standing around chanting”. I think we can both agree on at least that much.
I am pointing out that, people not being perfectly objective, we must interpret whether statements apply to us based on our worldview. If a true believer in transsubstatiation read the comment, then the fact that they believe that they regularly consume the flesh and blood of Christ is sufficient to make that statement apply to them. Thus, it is utterly immaterial whether they “literally” eat a demigod. It is sufficient that they believe that they do, and thus should believe the statement to apply to them.
Reading comprehension is dead lol
Ironic, then, that I can’t comprehend whether you are concurring or dissenting from my view. Whom are you suggesting isn’t comprehending? I thought I was being quite rigorous.
Get in line in that processional
Step into that small confessional
There the guy who’s got religion’ll
Tell you if your sin’s original.If it is, try playin’ it safer
Drink the wine and chew the wafer
Two, four, six, eight
Time to transubstantiate
Christ isn’t a demigod in Christianity; He’s God incarnate, fully God and fully Human. So we eat God directly. I can’t explain how with any precision as I’m not a trained and experienced theologian with the credentials to make the “how” statements, but we do eat God.
Some Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God so they wouldn’t be eating God. Also I think eating Jesus is mostly a catholic thing
Anyone who doesn’t believe that Jesus is entirely God isn’t a Christian. That’s not gatekeeping, its like saying someone can reject the prophet Muhammad and still be a Muslim. It just wouldn’t be true.
I’m an Orthodox Christian, and we definitely eat God every Sunday. The Lutherans also believe they eat God but they define it more like we do than the Roman Catholics do. The Anglicans usually agree with the Catholics on how they eat God. Beyond just the groups named, I’m fairly certain no one else truly eats God’s flesh.Anyone who doesn’t believe <my take> isn’t a <my belief>
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Anyone who doesn’t believe the earth is flat isn’t a flatearther. Anyone who doesn’t believe in the flying Spaghetti Monster isn’t a pastafarian.
Definitions carry value and determine what something/someone is or isn’tGuess i took that the wrong way. Sorry.
The take is the belief
You eat wafers from a factory. The end.
In Orthodox Christianity, the bread is homemade sometimes by the priest’s wife like in my parish. Its also leavened unlike the western Churches’ eucharist.
Unitarians are weird. They don’t believe in the trinity, but are Christian, but also merged with a non-Christian sect to form Unitarian Univalersalism.
But also, Catholics and most Protestants have a very different view on the Eucharist. Catholics believe in Transubstantiation, where the bread and wine become the literal body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist, whereas many Protestant sects either see the Eucharist as symbolic of the body and blood and Christ’s sacrifice, or something in between (Consubstantiation or Calvin’s very complicated take).
It also helps explain modern Catholocism’s stance that Protestants aren’t allowed to take part in the Eucharist. It’s not just a remnant of the old adversarial relationship between the sects, but different beliefs on what the sacrament is. They want everyone taking part in the ritual to understand it.
Jews battle god , u eat god
I wonder what the other abrahamic religion is doing …
Mental. Illness.
Nice, now you showed 'em!
Uh Oh, 2013 youtube videos of Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty found me. I may pee myself I’m so scared
I was just thinking about the term “Jeez-Its” this week in the grocery store and giggling like an idiot.
“So how many of those [do] you have to consume before you’ve eaten a whole Jesus?”
got 'em!
Religion is a straight up mental illness and by far the greatest threat facing humanity.
Yep,
But it still has a stranglehold on the world
There’s no excuse for a developed country to be swayed by superstitious claptrap, but 'Murica isn’t really a developed country, culturally speaking
You mispelled “pedophile”.
please don’t call Jesus a pedophile :C
Mohammed was a paedo
Jeebus was a weirdo who hung out with other dudes, washing their feet and shit
I meant “elder”.
well. good point. How about we just consume the flesh then, not the blood, and we introduce maybe some backroom pedophilia as filler?
/s
I suddenly feel like reading Graham Greene short stories
