• oDDmON@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” [Trump] wrote.

    Nor would they want false and fraudulent politicians sullying the office further, if we’re being honest.

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    11 months ago

    Just like how elected representatives have no duty to support their constituents

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      Maybe, but this goes much further. This is a president of the United States literally declaring himself not to be duty-bound to the constitution, the one document that limits their power.

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        Lord Varys : Power is a curious thing, my lord. Are you fond of riddles?

        Tyrion Lannister : Why? Am I about to hear one?

        Lord Varys : Three great men sit in a room: a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies?

        Tyrion Lannister : Depends on the sellsword.

        Lord Varys : Does it? He has neither crown, nor gold, nor favor with the gods.

        Tyrion Lannister : He has a sword, the power of life and death.

        Lord Varys : But if it’s swordsmen who rule, why do we pretend kings hold all the power? When Ned Stark lost his head, who was truly responsible? Joffrey? The executioner? Or something else?

        Tyrion Lannister : I’ve decided I don’t like riddles.

        [pause] 

        Lord Varys : Power resides where men believe it resides. It’s a trick. A shadow on the wall. And a very small man can cast a very large shadow.

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          That is a meaningless distinction in this case, unless you think that it somehow means he doesn’t have any power if he goes against the constitution.

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        Did he? Because that’s not what the article said. Where did he declare himself not duty bound by the constitution, aside from it being his layers words and not his, thats not even the nitpick being made. Did you actually read it?

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          11 months ago

          Are you seriously trying to argue “it was just his lawyers arguing this point, he didn’t say it himself”?

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            That’s not what he’s saying, and I’m not a Trumpet but the article’s pretty clear: Trump’s argument is that he swore to “preserve, protect and defend” but that elsewhere the constitution defines officers as people who swear to “support” so he’s not an “officer”.

            It’s stupid and nitpicky but not as clickbaity as the headline.

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              You do understand that as his legal representation, they are arguing for him, which makes their argument legally literally his argument?

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                No actually, thats not how lawyers work, you tell them your part, and they say itn how it needs to be said to work for you, hence the part of hiring them, its almost never verbatim.

                So again, his lawyers words, not his. Can you quote HIM saying it, yes or no?

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                  Why are you complaining to me, while the Independent must have made the same mistake in your eyes?

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      Trump actually did a lot of what he said he’d do. He was incredibly effective. This isn’t praise for him. I’m just saying, MAGA mostly agrees with you, but see an archon of action in Trump.

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      Your impressive amount of down votes show how fucking stupid people truly are, they’re literally like kids that dont know the difference between TV and real life. “But they said…”

      Unreal. Makes no difference what side you’re on, they’re all politicians.