• JordanZ@lemmy.world
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    According to The Verge, 8GB of memory works mostly fine for basic tasks such as web browsing, text editing, and video streaming on YouTube and other streaming platforms. However, the laptop would hang or freeze “for several seconds” whenever someone joined a video call on Microsoft Teams.

    Not surprising. Probably the only Microsoft app more bloated than Windows is Teams.

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      I don’t think that is an 8GB RAM issue. I had a client last year but a bunch of the new surface pros with ARM chips, and they had similar hangups with 16GB of RAM. Frankly, those things never worked “right”, and I think it’s a problem with how Windows emulates x86/x64 apps on them.

      8GB of RAM is still not great for Windows 11, but I feel like it’s a separate issue.

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      Which blows my mind they fucked up teams so badly! It started out as a very lightweight video platform from Skype, running on low end hardware. Then to be more competitive against Zoom, ramped up the garbage until it’s practically useless…

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      I hate teams so much. Some of my friends have never used anything else and they’re like “I don’t understand what’s so bad about it”

      It’s like trying to explain to someone who lived their whole life in a sewer what fresh air is.

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    Apple performed some incredible wizardry to make iOS and macOS as performant as they come with the chips/hardware they had over the past decade.

    I really thought those Microsoft laptops would take a page out of Apple. And do the same thing.

    Nope. Microsoft continues to shovel their dog shit resource hogging OS and demand hardware “figure it out”.

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      I’m increasingly getting the feeling they really fucked themselves with the layoffs and genuinely lost some invaluable core team members across the board, and now they are technically incapable of improving certain aspects anymore.

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        I have to deal with M$ onsite at work regularly. They are mandated to use copilot for basically everything now. When you ask them for tech guidance, it’s a copilot answer. Presentations are generated by copilot. It’s cringe to say the least. I can only imagine that’s how it is for all their products now.

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      Although I never owned one, I can’t believe the industry didn’t follow the original iPhone in its responsiveness. It would prioritize user input above everything else, even graphics rendering. When you clicked on something, it would provide feedback. Contrast that with modern UI across all platforms, and you can regularly click on something and have nothing happen for 5-10 seconds.

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      I have an 8gb M1 Mac mini that my dad gave me. Put Asahi on it with a view to using it for my Home Assistant server. That on its own was perfectly fine, but adding an LLM for voice commands absolutely fucked the RAM. No amount of swap or anything could help, it’d just hang.

      So I set it back to macOS, because it can hook into Apple APIs for LLMs that utilise the GPU in a way that Asahi couldn’t. And yeah, Home Assistant + LLM runs really well even in a UTM VM. Same system, completely different outcomes.

      And that’s no shade to Asahi. What they’ve achieve is little short of incredible, but there’s certain shit that Apple just won’t let them access.

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      Its honestly so bad lol. Windows rapidly declines in performance once iflt boots. When I switch to my gaming desktop it’s just lightning fast always (Linux btw). And it’s not because I’m doing less. And my windows laptop is not even a year old. My desktop is from 2019. Lol.

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      It does blow my mind a little that they don’t even appear to be doing the most basic of testing anymore.

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    Just like literally anyone who knows the most basic things about computers had been pointing out it would the whole fucking time since it was announced.

    We’re in the nazi clown dimension.