Ain’t that some BS

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    21 hours ago

    We don’t have to let them. We can fight it to make change happen.

    And we should. They are no masters.

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      19 hours ago

      Trying to fight them when you’re re-entering the border I guarantee you will lose. If you want to fight them, you do it in court.

      But you do you

      • Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        If you want to fight them in court, you need standing. To have standing, you have to have been affected by the law.

        You can not fight them in court until they do something. You can not sue for what someone might do.

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          4 hours ago

          This is no longer true. The Republican idiots on the Supreme Court have made a habit of ruling for plaintiffs with demonstrably zero standing. There is no longer rule of law in this country.

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          13 hours ago

          Is it true that you have to have standing to fight them in court, yes.

          But to be completely honest, 99% of the people have no interest in actually going to court . they figure they can just fight them while standing in line.

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            11 hours ago

            You’re contradicting yourself.

            Trying to fight them when you’re re-entering the border I guarantee you will lose. If you want to fight them, you do it in court.

            There’s an implied “instead” in there. You’re saying don’t fight them at the border, because you will lose. INSTEAD, fight them in court.

            To fight them in court, you have to have standing. You get standing by fighting them at the border and losing.

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              9 hours ago

              I’m not contradicting myself, you’re just not understanding what’s being said there.

              So let me spell it out for you. If a person thinks they can just stand at the border and just fight it. And that’s it. And win. No they’re going to fail. Damn near every single time. It’s kind of like trying to argue with a cop alongside the road. Good luck you’re basically not going to win.

              Now, if your intent is to fight in court, if that is your end goal, then yes you would have to fight it at the border. You have to say something at the border so then you have legal standing.

              The point of my statement was 99% of the people have no intention going into the courtroom, so therefore there’s no point in fighting at the border because they’re going to lose at the border.