I work at a tobacco shop. And after they said I blown through a stop sign. When asked when drinking I said no. Then he said I smelled, and I quote, “of something suspicious”. I get cops get their paycheck for tickets and such but seriously has it really gotten this bad that for a ticket they try to make it something bigger? and ignoring my rights?

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    “I am not discussing what I have or haven’t been eating or drinking. Am I being detained or am I free to go?” Field sobriety tests are always voluntary, but you might have to go to the station for a blood test.

    If they continue to ask questions, “I am invoking my constitutional right to not answer questions. I won’t be making any other statements without a lawyer present.”

    If they ask you to step out of your vehicle, you do have to comply. “I am complying and stepping out of my vehicle. I do not consent to a search of my person or property. Am I free to go or am I being detained?”

    Never talk to the cops brought to you by Shut the Fuck Up Friday.

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      Field sobriety tests are always voluntary

      It may not always be so simple. In my state (Georgia) there is “implied consent” (yes, disgusting term) to breathalyzers and refusing one gets your license suspended for a year. This is after arrest actually, so it might be different.

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      It’s shit that you have to know exactly what to say in order to take advantage of your rights.

      But one thing I should mention is not just to be careful not to say what you’ve been eating or drinking. Never tell the cops anything about yourself other than what is legally required. They often ask where you’re coming from and where you’re going, for example.

      They often try to trick people into consenting to a search by phrasing an order as a question, and pretending like they were just asking a question. “Would you mind opening your trunk?” The response is “I do not consent to searches.” I would also lock my door if I stepped out of my car. There are many situations where they can pretend you implied consent to search.

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      Depending on your habits, it might behoove you to opt for the station breath test. They can look at more than just alcohol in blood and pop you for weed or even legally prescribed adderall.

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        In most states you’re allowed to not take the roadside breath test, despite cops lying like motherfuckers about it. It’s the one at the station after you’ve been arrested that you have to take if you don’t want to automatically get your license taken for like a year, and they always do at least two different samples between that breath test, urine, and blood. Don’t do those and you’re pretty much guaranteed you lose your license and get the DUI charge as well.

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          That is the opposite of another comment here. I guess I’ll beleive neither and refuse both tests to play it safe

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            Different states have different laws. I’m in Louisiana and refusing a breath test automatically triggers a license suspension

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              And you’ve been lied to and you’re wrong. I just read your Louisiana revised statute 32.666 and you don’t have to take a preliminary breath test (the little one the cops use on the side of the road).

              Again, though. Not a lawyer. Speak to your lawyer in Louisiana and ask them. Other jurisdictions may have different laws.

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                Like I said, your license can be suspended. That means you can still refuse it.

                But most importantly, read 32:661 if you want to be insufferable about it. We have an implied consent law.

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                  And that implied consent law is for a breathalyzer test. Not the one they do on the side of the road. You don’t lose your license to refuse a pbt.

                  Edit: Also fyi. Read 32.661 with a bit higher of a reading comp level. The chem test you can’t refuse is AFTER YOUR ARREST.

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      Speaking for California, but you technically consent to blood draws when you get your license Cvc 23612

      I don’t think it’s ever been forced though for a simple DWI, and I’d find it hard to believe a random nurse/phlebotomist would be down with a forced blood draw.

      You can probably refuse everything but the other circumstances of being impaired likely won’t help ya and if it’s gone that far you’re probably going to jail anyway