And worse, they don’t even care.
Old school MS would just add some seconds delay to the Mac version.
I want to have to book an appointment every time I want to use a Microsoft product.
Great! I’ll just fire up Outlook to put that into my cale oh no
Gotta load that sweet telemetry
So… don’t use it?
Microsoft’s excuse: 🖕
“And Microsoft has no excuse (they’d be willing to admit to).”. Those wacky little degenerates and their “back doors”. We need serious people back in the tech world again. Men and women of honour, with standards.
They all moved to linux or are bound by golden handcuffs. Source: my entire friend group
I worked with some former Microsoft people. It was ridiculous. So much drama. They were constantly pushing initiatives that made no sense. They cared more about their weird culture than they did about making great products. I think that Ballmer broke Microsoft. His endless stacked-ranking made people focus on corporate politics and resume padding over quality.
My linguistic pet peeve is using compounds to describe a negative.
Twice as slow < half as fast.
Twice as ugly ? Half as pretty
Legacy code bloat. How much of that macOS code is even from win32 word?
I’m done with MS myself, but at the same time I like to be conscious that news sites are milking the sentiment of frustrated users by constantly rephrasing “MS said they are going to be improve X” into “MS admits that X is bad”.
maybe one day someone can get to the bottom of why it takes thirty seconds to open a local Excel file
12 seconds for a 500-page doc? Are people just that impatient these days? Does everyone have ADHD? People will find anything to complain about.
Not sure how well Moore’s law is holding up these days, but considering a typical PC is streaming hi res video these days opening a 500 page text file should happen so fast you don’t even notice it.
Modern Windows and many of the core software are pathetically unoptimized, wasting time and resources because as others have pointed out, “fuck you” seems to be the mantra now days.
I dig through a ton of reference material every day for work, and should be able to open a file, control-f to the relevant information, and close it again as fast as my fingers can type.
Yeah somehow the other guy fails to see how that 12 seconds lag with freaking Microsoft Word will correlate with bad performance in other areas in Windows too. FFS, even the Win11 start menu has horrible optimization issues with CPU lag spikes. Oh no! It’s gotta be my ADHD though!!
Waiting 12 seconds for simply opening a word document is the tip of the enshitification iceberg. I would say “slippery slope” for this example here, but we are looonngggg past that point now. Don’t use windows!
Windows 11 recently had to start enabling some kind of turbo CPU mode just to open a right click menu on files, because otherwise it took more than 5-10 seconds. Same with File Browser.
They are extremely incompetent.
I had to use Teams for a week because of a second jpb I do occasional contracts for, and it was baffling how extremely worse has it gotten in the last two years.
Three times! It has happened that the teams would load (after going through login loop twice times for some reason) that it would load and show everything as usuall. Only after like three hours of waiting for answer I’ve noticed that my message actually didn’t send, without any error or indicator, and that everyone’s, including mine, status is “Undefined” and nothing works - messages don’t send, just appear sent, and I’m not getting any messages.
The only indicator was that everyone’s status dot was a hollow grey circle, and that messages did not have the sent checkmark but just a hollow dot next to them. Even refreshing did not fix it and I had to relog it for it to start working.
All the extra features that require extra Ram and CPU are there because someone requested it. Sure you can have your office 97 that runs on 16MB, but then you would not be able to embed your AutoCAD drawings, load data from an XML file on the Internet or other snazziness that 99% of users don’t need.
Then you should use a format and program that’s less cumbersome. Word isn’t Notepad. It’s much more complex.
I don’t even use Word. Wouldn’t even if it opened instantaneously. But I sure as fuck not going to be worked up over something taking a few seconds to open.
They’re not getting worked up, they’re comparing apples and oranges
I wouldn’t know. I’m not stupid enough to use products by this bullshit company.
Boo-hoo if you work for soe shitty company that forces you too. I don’t have enough fuck to get for you. don’t you have the choice to quit?
Edit: wow… So many people hate me because I don’t have to use. Shitty Microsoft products. Jealous much? Lol.
What a dumb reason to quit a job lmao
Depends. I’ve happily turned down jobs that required me to use Windows and the amount of daily frustration I avoid as a result is worth every bit of the pickiness.
I mean couldn’t you just use a virtual machine on Linux or MacOS if you needed to use it for work? If you could manage working at the job and it’s otherwise cool with nice perks, you really fucked up a good opportunity. As someone who is dealing with debilitating pain and mental issues, id KILL for a sweet job where I could work on computers and not kill my body the process. You must be loaded with cash to be this picky.
Downvote all you like. I’m happy picking the jobs I want and don’t have to maintain proficiency in a bad tool I hate using. You do you.
I wouldn’t know. I’ve never been stupid enough to work for a company that uses Microsoft products.
Have you ever been that stupid?
I’ve never been stupid enough to work for a company that uses Microsoft products.
Don’t blame me because you have a shitty job.
You’re claiming to have NEVER worked at a company that uses ANY of these?
Half of their products are server-side and you’d never know you were using them as an end user. Unless you’ve literally never worked anywhere at all, that’s extremely unlikely.
I’ve been a freelancer since I graduated from design school.
I work for myself and choose my own software. If that’s so unbelievable to you, I don’t know what to tell you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You work for yourself, not employed by another company.
So you are being disingenuous.
I think many (most?) would argue that is basically the same as lying about it.
I’m hoping you’re still young so that you have more of a chance to mature. You’re confusing necessity for stupidity and completely missing the fact that people need money to survive. My guess is that you grew up fairly wealthy so you never really had to consider that financial problems exist.
You even said something correct below in that avoiding the use of Microsoft is a privilege but I’m also guessing you don’t realize exactly what that means. It doesn’t make you intellectually superior to anyone, just that you’re lucky you’re in that position. Similar to how having enough money to not worry about grocery store prices or having no chronic diseases are privileges.
Part of being a good graphic designer is having enough empathy to connect with people so that your design goes through. Be better.
I’m old enough to recognize arrogant bullshit when I see it.
And your arrogant pretense betrays itself– – because either you had enough money to pay for that bullshit, or you’re just some jealous asshole who didn’t. otherwise, you wouldn’t be so angry, so bitter as to complain about it, about me here, decades later. zero cool
I got by by being clever enough to get what I needed without having to pay for it. And I don’t care whether or not you believe me. Because it happened. And here I am. and that’s all the proof I need to show. and I understand why you may resent me for that, you have absolutely zero right to judge me for it.
so fucking deal with it
don’t you have the choice to quit?
Many people can’t comfortably quit their job. Not in the US. Finding a new job is difficult. Finding a new job that doesn’t use Microsoft is even more of a long shot. Most people don’t have the money sitting around to just coast without income for very long.
Edit: wow… So many people hate me because I don’t have to use. Shitty Microsoft products.
I don’t think that’s why you’re being down voted. It’s the “let them eat cake” attitude about people being stuck at shitty jobs, probably
“Look at me! I’m an entitled jerk who judges others based on their incapacity to leave jobs that use microsoft software!”
Shows how little you understand of the world.
It shows that you’re an angry and jealous asshole who’s just as judgmental as you accuse me of being. I hope you feel better now that you’ve projected your anger onto me.
At least I don’t have to use Microsoft products, ya hypocrite
