I have never understood the need to comment on porn of any kind.
You probably also guessed that the stripper isn’t actually attracted to you.
He’s not???
Sorry you had to find out this way.
But the escort actually likes me, right?
Yes. That’s different.
Instructions unclear. My ford escort definitely hates me
I’d hate you too if you were trying to clog up my tailpipe.
I made her a loaf of sourdough bread and now I know her real name and home address. Did I mess up?
Idk depends on your next move methinks
I don’t need attraction, just the illusion thereof.
Maybe that’s what’s happening here too, the illusion of a pretty lady
Identifying the performer to find more of their material, or more of the same genre
This wouldn’t be necessary if more of the Internet used AO3 tagging and category systems
Ive been begging us to adopt booru-style tagging for videos for decades at this point.
(For the uninitiated, this would mean i could search something like “Brunette curly_hair -horse_penis score:>500” and get every video known to man with a curly haired brunette who does not interact with a horse penis and at least 500 people liked the video)
I’ve seen some funny comments, but the ones that are like “ur so hot” are baffling.
Also the “if you had to pick one” ones. Like it’s a public forum and those are real people. Like I get the whole fantasy and thinking about which one you are most attracted to, but any kind of bonding with others around porn (that isn’t just having sex while watching porn) just seems pathetic to me.
I’ve posted a few asking why they decided a macro shot of the dude’s butthole was what we wanted to see.
Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.
Kinda wishin I knew what a thirst trap was…
Good-looking person, usually dressed and/or posing provocatively. Often includes engagement-bait-type caption.
A thirst trap is specifically attraction as bait
Thanks, Ive literally never heard this term till today
Someone is “thirsty” for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence “trap”.
The “woman” is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it’s almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.
Where lions ambush gazelles when they go to the water hole
A sexually suggestive picture
One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??
The stronger the stink, the harder my dink.
Well, in a way most of the AI hype (like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce) are a thirst trap for CEOs.
A bit like selling candy with crack on the schoolground of a primary school…
I would like to politely suggest that placing a parenthetical three times longer than the sentence it’s nested in makes that sentence quite difficult to get through.
So, how would you phrase it? (I am assuming you do not want to divert from the argument.)
Well, in a way most of the AI hype is a thirst trap for CEOs - like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce.
Not even CEOs, you can see various (at some point failed due to low quality high expenses workforce, that can now be replaced with AI, you get the idea) entrepreneurs and non-techies on Facebook write long excited posts about Claude.
About a computer program and a dataset running completely outside their control and scrutiny. Like white colonizers selling rifles to natives, but not machinery to make those rifles. Or ammunition, but not machinery to produce it. Or colored glass, but not technical processes to make said colored glass.
CEOs are right to be excited, they might be able to afford the real thing - self-hosted and with the accompanying processes, like healthy datasets, experienced people, nuances of adjusting models, stuff like that.
But people who are being shown that they can be replaced sufficiently well by a machine, that has another little trait of being completely adjustable - that I can’t understand.
Someone interested in humanitarian sciences and art being excited that there’s a machine parroting them well enough to replace them, except that machine can also be made to produce those things to fascist ends, - I don’t understand that.
The solution? Flood Facebook with AI generated boomers and let the bot system implode and take facebook down with it.
The AI generated boomers are all commenting on political posts and telling us why lefties are wrong and global warming isn’t real.
Yes but we still don’t have ones that swoon over thirst traps repeatedly.
I ran into a Discord where the sole topic was running hot girl “AI influencers” on Instagram. Literally hundreds of thousands of people thirsted over them, and the operaters made real money.
Their systems were pretty sophisticated. The whole process is automated; LLMs write the posts and do sexy DMs, imagegen and videogen models and such do the sexy images and videos, controlnet keeps the look consistent-enough between media. LLM agents press all the buttons. I think there may have even been OnlyFans stuff.
So a single operator could run dozens of bots.
…It’s not hard for these models, either. DMs and short Insta posts are stupidly simple language, and media of sexy people in clothes, doing insta-style poses, probably makes up most of the image/video model training corpus.
I think there was some engagement farming with other bots, of course, but it would snowball and turn organic. Real Instagram users were thirsting over these bots.
…It got me thinking.
Is it really that different from a parasocial relationship with a “real” influencer?
I mean, functionally, its exactly the same. The users can’t even tell the difference.
I posit that the whole “thirst” influencer system was broken and exploitive to everyone involved, except Facebook.
It was fucked up to begin with.
AI just made it more obvious to onlookers. It destroyed the pretense that any of it was “real.”
What a lot of people fail to realize is that the whole industry is based on selling a fantasy. It’s no different then getting the girl friend experience from a prostitute. I don’t think there’s a meaningful difference between a real person and an AI in these industries.
IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.
IMO it’s only a problem when the customer doesn’t understand that they’re buying an illusion.
+1. But I wonder how many know it’s an illusion.
I’m the wrong person to analyze this though, as I do not get why people engage in these services. Like, I get roleplaying, I’ve daydreamed or even written out long fantasies, but why would I (for example) pay for some girl to talk it out on the phone?
…Much less gawk at some influencer on Insta?
What’s the point?
Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?
They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.
in a sense… I know some people like this
A trick Reddit was pioneering all the way back in the late '00s. Drive engagement by using bots to fake engagement.
And it’ll happen to you, too!
Maybe, but I wouldn’t be leaving those comments for real women, either. E-girls existed long before AI did. What do these guys think is going to happen? Are these the dudes who go to strip clubs and think that the dancer is going to go home with them?
Cast a wide net mentality
I think the bigger issue is 65+ guys perving on girls young enough to be their daughters. Old guys who think they are still 25 and have game.
My father has been very insistent on having a health insurance plan that could have a spouse added because he is sure one of the thirst traps he sends gift cards to is going to marry him. My sister had to have a conversation with him about not looking at nudes on his phone while visiting his grandkids.
Ugh. The only consolation my sister and I have is that at least no actual young women are being harassed by him.
Oh man, he is prime romance scam bait.
They should totally Logans run anyone over 30.
They’ve been doing it long before AI images too. Most photoshops got them too.
I mean most of the influencer bullshit is artificial engagement anyway. People playing a role to entertain, gain attention, make money. If you look at porn comments, they are all dumb so it wouldn’t surprise me that the boomers leaving comments are similarly dumb “roleplaying”, knowing that this is just a fantasy sharing between gooners. They might simply not care if it’s real or not.
Personally I don’t get it, but whatever.
Yes but AI is taking jobs away from real live sex workers. Won’t anyone think about them.
AI still can’t replace hookers.
Well, lol. Theoretically with VR headsets and cyberdildonics like automatic fleshlights / masturbators it could come pretty close with the current technology. The kind of looks and environment and dirty talk you want. Obviously it would still be limited.
So AI generated VR porn with cyberdildonics actually could make much of sex work redundant. Theoretically this is a good thing. No human should have to do sex work or porn or onlyfans just for money to survive, if they don’t genuinely enjoy doing it. (EDIT)
China already regulated this so that AI chat bots must not create addiction. It’s probably a wise course to follow lol.
So AI generated VR porn with cyberdildonics actually could make much of sex work redundant.
I doubt that the technology is there. Or, if it is, it’s prohibitively expensive.
Theoretically this is a good thing. No human needs to do sex work or porn or onlyfans just for money if they don’t genuinely enjoy doing it.
You honestly don’t believe that there are sex workers who are relying on their job for a paycheck? Why?
You honestly don’t believe that there are sex workers who are relying on their job for a paycheck? Why?
No human should have to do sex work …
Do you feel this way about other kinds of work?
Yes, promotional mascots. Also maybe portable toilet cleaners. Roadkill collector? Crime scene cleaners? Broadcaster definitely. Restroom attendant also.
But seriously, do you think this is a controversial view? Do you think parents want (EDIT: their adult) children or friends to have to do sex work? Would anybody go “oh wow I’m so proud of you”? I do not think so. So lowering the demand and therefor supply pressure is overall a societal good.
…said the self-proclaimed “not-a-robot” named Roomba
Lol
My alias predates roomba on other platforms.
“Why should I change, he’s the one that sucks.”
so much that there is even a sub for “isthisAI, thirstrap” posts.
Also:
I’d love to do case studies on the real people at the end of these things.
Like, who is scrolling Facebook and Insta to thirst over algorithmic posts, yet is somehow unaware of the generative explosion?
Do they know, and just don’t care? Do they think they could tell if an image is fake, or is it true unawareness?
What do they do in real life? What are their relationships like?
How does this system work.
I think it’s easy to assume they’re all basement dwellers or whatever, but one could stereotype Lemmy the same way, and that’s just not true.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, such studies must exist. I don’t want to fall into the “I didn’t even try to search for the answer” thing.
But all this has happened so fast. And clearly the studies aren’t being acted on…
My father is retired, my sister and I have carefully avoided describing AI to him because he would for sure get AI psychosis if he started conversing with a chat bot, his relationships are all unhealthy. My sister and I have made him agree to let us control his retirement income in exchange for bailing him out of a particularly financially devastating one of the many scams he fell for in retirement. We give him a weekly allowance for groceries and prescriptions and gift cards to give to thirst traps.
He is absolutely unaware they are fake, at a core identity level of refusal to grapple with reality. Some combination of he always had some susceptibility to this kind of thing, lost his only close trusted reality check person when he and my mom split up after over twenty years, and aging-related cognitive impairment.
gift cards to give to thirst traps.
What does he use specifically, though? Facebook, Instagram? OF?
On his phone, right?
I apologize if that’s a weird question, but I’m… scientifically curious. I know lots of folks are susceptible, but I’m interested in the systems that suck folks like your father in.
Boomers think supernatural creatures control our fate. Why would we expect them to be capable of determining fiction from reality?
I’d like to see your ‘science’ explain where the missing socks go in the dryer.
The gnomes take them. Duhh. It’s scientifically proven.
