How about we start with 1% and see what happens.
Just the top 10000 would make a big difference already
Yes, let’s get rid of all trans people! /s /s
Thatd include most of us, though.
So you’re a multi millionaire, then?
Because I’m not, I can barely keep my head above water.
Would it? What’s the net worth of the 80,000,000th richest person?
Bottom of the top 1% globally have a net worth of $1 Million
I’m already on board you can stop trying to convince me
I’m safe by a wide margin, lol
Then the systems that prop up that 1% continue on as if nothing happened, only people might be paid more evenly.
That’s it. Expecting a fundamental shift in how humanity/global society functions just because a comparitive handful of people die is just ridiculous.
But we won’t know for sure unless we try.
And of course if they are gone, they won’t be there to kick and scream like children against every step of progress.
The absence of their influence in Politics will make a massive difference.
The resources captured by the rich are probably a far smaller part of the problems they make than how they use the money they have to shape Politics and Public Opinion (via the Media they own), hence policies, hence the way our society and economy operates to maximized their own wealth.
Most Overconsumption and Negative Externality problems (both things that serve to maximized the profits that end up in the hands of Asset Owners and both the kind of thing that most damages the Environment) could be legislated away, but there is no will and there is no will because the politicians and the media are bought by those who benefit from things being as they are, and they are bought because those people have lots of money to buy them with.
Take the power to buy politicians and deciding what the press puts out away from the rich and all of a sudden profit-reducing pro-Environmental policies are not just politically acceptable but even demanded by public opinion, and given that said rich people would never give up on that without a massivelly destructive fight (literally Revolution), the safest and best option for about 99.9998% of people (8 billion minus 10,000 out of 8 billion) would probably be that a handful of rich people just die.
population x individual emissions = global emissions
Which number you want to change says a lot about your politics.
edit: given it’s the daily mail *spits on the ground* it’s very likely the researchers didn’t even say anything about which number to tune, the daily mail just added their special flavor to the headline. (probably also have a good idea which 4 billion has to go)
Gee, I wonder which group is going to be genocided by the wealthy…
What, you think it’ll just be one group?
So you often feel the need to “one up” people in conversation?
Lol, ok dude.
But the billionaires say we need MORE people so they have enough slaves of the colors they like!
Eating the rich would do more
The issue with halving in that people will be left beehind alone and sad. We could just remove all humas, this way nobody is sad
Less consumers and less slaves? Noooo what will the investors do? We need MORE MORE MORE
Or, yk, live in a different way. But that might be harder than having a lot of people die. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Scientists
Misspelled Eugenicists.
Population control is eugenics in the same way dressing up as a ghost for Halloween makes you a Klan member.
No, population control is the definition of eugenics lol.
Controlling the population absolutely requires an authority allowing certain people to have children. There’s no way around controlling who is allowed to have children if you’re controlling the population numbers.
That would de facto have to be done with forced abortions or forced sterilization. There’s no other way to enforce people not having kids.
Eugenics is concerned with who reproduces. Simply giving out free birth control to anyone who wants it is a population control measure.
You have Nazi vision. Everyone is Hitler.
Lynching someone from a tree in an outfit you got at Spirit Halloween doesn’t make you less of a murderer.
That has no relation to what I wrote.
Concentration camps are concentration camps, no matter how you try to spin it.
Population control is not eugenics, you silly goose! One’s concerned only with the number of people. The other with who reproduces. Your definition of eugenics is so broad that any teacher teaching sex ed counts as a eugenicist.
Words have meaning. Don’t water them down for cheap points.
Population control is not eugenics, you silly goose!
Lolz! We’re just starving you to death in a prison camp rampant with disease, hehe!
Fucking twee fascists.
Your hobby is inventing custom definitions for words and then working yourself into a tizzy over them.
Pretty sure the birth rate is plummeting. So continue doing nothing i guess.
Fucking paying money to raise a wage slave renter for the shitty bosses and landlords of the world.
Pretty sure the birth rate is plummeting
The birthrate in industrialized nations has slipped from slightly above replacement to slightly below replacement over the course of several decades. World population is still growing and estimated to top off at around 10 billion people in the 2080s
Of course, the plutocracy has been preparing for this with the rapid development of their human labor panacea - AI. This massive rush to Create God, as described by the lunatics at Microsoft, Tesla, Amazon, and Google, is much more about finding a low-cost industrially scalable replacement for live humans.
Meanwhile, we’re gearing up development of sophisticated methodologies for mass murder and demoing them from Central Africa to Southeast Asia.
The only catch is that much of the modern-day Unaligned States haven’t taken it laying down. One reason we’re seeing Iranian ballistic missiles focusing their fire on Amazon Data Centers across the Middle East. We’re hitting the nexus between western reliance on advanced artificial intelligence in lieu of human labor and their geopolitical rivals seeing these institutions as a threat to the lives and livelihoods of human populations.
You might also want to take a hard look at all those Flock cameras going up across the United States. And how they are increasingly integrated into the national police organizations busy black bagging people and shoving them in concentration camps.
Most of the destruction is Capitalism and Consumer Society overproduction and overexploitation - a lot of unecessary shit is done and a lot of what’s done is done in unecessarily destructive ways (with lots of Negative Externatities) when it could’ve been done in far less destructive but less profit-generating ways, all because our political and economic structures are dedicated to the maximization of the wealth of the richest people.
(It’s not by chance that Ecologist parties are generally leftwing - the politicies for protecting the Environment are generally diametrally opposite of the politicies that maximize the investment profits of those who own most shit and have the most money)
I bet that only about 100 people need to die (all billionaires) to save the planet, an acceptable sacrifice.
I have seen that movie. It’s kingsman. And the end is fabulous.
Head explosions !!
Hey it was only the rich assholes who’s heads popped, everyone else just participated in a world-wide brawl for like 60 seconds so hopefully most people survived that
alternatively we could probably do with just reducing population by every CEO/comapany owner/shareholder/leader/whoever has control that refuses to become climate neutral
I like this idea, fuck tax incentives and carbon credits.
You get to neutral, you shut down your business, or you die. Your choice!
It is widely understood that Thanos was insane. Resources aren’t naturally limited and his campaign of slaughtering half the populations of planets didn’t ensure plenty for the masses. What he accomplished was to teach otherwise isolated civilizations that unless they put aside their differences and worked together they were vulnerable to devastating attack.
The only scarcity there is or ever has been is artificially created by either ineptitude or purposeful in order to prop up the wealthy who are given ownership of land and resources.
If he truly wish for a prosperous universe he would have snapped those fingers and installed the knowledge to create a post scarcity society on every planet with intelligent life in all beings. Because with all things the answer is EDUCATION NOT DEATH.
By definition there is always scarcity
We as a species, at this very moment in time, have the physical and technological capability to feed every man woman and child on the planet, yet there’s somehow not enough food to feed all people and groceries are more expensive than they were 100 years ago. In terms of shear volume, you can stack all of humanity in one small corner of the grand canyon but “there’s not enough room for people to live in a home.” yet millions of houses and apartments stand empty as placeholders for equity and investment.
Scarcity is a choice, not a fact of existence. Stop buying the propaganda.
Thr current situation is a choice. Scarcity is a fact. Resources are limited by physics.
The scarcity you’re talking about is cosmic in scale, and doesn’t have a lot to do with the false scarcity people are talking about.
Absolutely. Still makws it a true statement. I am pedantic, I know. Sorry.
Not all true statements are on topic, I had to learn the hard way too. I know how it is
Do we? Cuz like, I’m willing to go
