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yaknow, lots of people make fun of juggalos, but most of the ones ive met have been incredibly caring people that don’t judge lol
They seem to be mostly kind hearted folk that are about the (actual, not proverbial) filthiest humans on the planet.
Like they’re gross AF but friendly too. It’s certainly a weird subculture but I’d hang out with a juggalo over a MAGA bro any day of the week.
IME juggalos are usually people who were or would be maga culturally but are disgusted by the lack of empathy that defines maga. They’re the kind of people who grew up with a confederate flag on their wall but take it down in disgust when they make their first black friend and somebody explains to them for the first time that the flag is a hate symbol
I wouldn’t say they’re that culturally - socioeconomically more.
what is a juggalo?
I don’t know/but I’m down with the clown/and I’m down for life yo
Why does that make you laugh out loud?
I hope he updates his views on magnets as well
That’s what big magnetite wants you to think
really one of the most amazing things to me about the whole rapid decay of the American Empire is that Juggalos did SUCH a face turn.
MMFCL Ninjas.
Also, with Kid Rock being MAGA, Eminiem being anti-Trump Dem, and ICP being antifa, current US politics pretty much just are late 90s Detroit rap based.
Willingness to admit he grew up is something refreshing to see happen.
Grew up as a hardcore republican in South Texas. Moved to southern Louisiana and quickly realized, nope not republican, just highly misguided. I was wrong. I admit it to everyone. Now as time has passed, staunch socialist. Such as life.
I cringe remembering how i would use Rush Limbaugh talking points in the mid 90s. Grew up in redneck central. Realized how shitty my views were when i got around people different from me in college. There is hope for all of the world’s dumbasses.
You are my kin
Props for admitting he was wrong. A “fool,” sure, but still feels kinda light on the self-disrespect for the content of some of their lyrics. I don’t recall “going with the flow” to include pedophilia. Necrophilia, on the other hand, totally going with the flow.
In full honesty people change. This isn’t to forgive negative actions but also not chastise someone to eternity for the mistakes they have made so long as they have changed and are putting in the work to undo the harm they caused. We individually and ultimately as a society need forgiveness. To be human is to error and I personally don’t want a part in any community who can not manage the humility to forgive.
A lot of younger people don’t realize how far we’ve come on gay rights in a very short period.
In 1989 84% of Americans were opposed to gay marriage. It didn’t break 50% support until 2012. By 2024 it was nearly 70% in support, and all 50 states are now over 50%.
Most of us growing up in the 80s and 90s thought homosexuality was wrong. It didn’t feel like we were prejudiced assholes at the time though.
We now know we were wrong, and many of us have worked to make things better. And young people need to accept the fact that we were wrong and have changed.
There’s something else we’re all wrong about now. An unacceptable prejudice we don’t recognize because we don’t feel like we’re biggots. I don’t know what it is and I may never get over it, but the next generation will look back and realize they were wrong about something. And the only way to move on will be to accept they were wrong, forgive themselves, and make the world better.
It’s how we improve as a society.
A lot of younger people don’t realize how far we’ve come on gay rights in a very short period.
A while ago I heard recordings of white house press conferences from the Reagan administration when a reporter started asking about AIDS for the first time.
I was just a kid during the Reagan administration, and not the kind of kid that listened to white house press conferences, so I had no recollection of this.
It was shocking to me how casually they joked and laughed about gay people dying and how they made fun of the reporter for asking the question. It was also shocking that it wasn’t just Reagan’s press secretary but also the other reporters joining in and laughing.
I found a link to it for another post recently:
I’m in my early 30’s and I remember the opposition to gay marriage when I was a kid in the 2000’s, it was strong and very visible. This was in a Southern California beach town, not exactly a bastion of conservatism. Hell, Obama was opposed to gay marriage when he first ran for president. Things changed very quickly as we entered the 2010’s.
those aren’t encouraging numbers tbh.
half of the population hating you is a big deal. half of a state hating you, even montana, is a big deal.
a lot of that approval may have to do with cancel culture as well. people may be hesitant to share their real viewpoints even in supposedly safe environments.
if you’re a man, go out in public wearing pink sneakers and tell me you don’t feel the gaze of other humans.
Centuries of hate going from 84% to 30% in a few decades is fucking fantastic.
Was homosexuality ever popularly accepted between antiquity and the 21st century?
Fuck yeah, we need way more of this attitude. Like, sure, there are people out there that do an apology tour as a grift, whatever, but it’s absolutely insane how often people see someone legitimately trying to change and be better and will immediately shit on them like they need to be punished immediately. Do we really want to disincentivise people to change for the better?
I’m 100% unironically for literally punching nazis/fascists when they’re doing their bullshit in public. The number one goal any rational person would have for a fascist is for that fascist to not exist. The best-case scenario for this is for them to no longer to be a fascist and renouncing fascism altogether. We must keep in mind that we must focus our anger on the system, not the people. That means publicly and viciously opposing fascism, but also giving people a way to leave that movement. You don’t destroy the movement by opposing it alone, you must also starve it of it’s members. If enough people leave a movement, that movement loses it’s power. I’m using fascism as an obviously extreme example, but the principle(s) applies for any kind of malignant behavior/system.
When someone tries to leave some hateful bullshit behind, pull that motherfucker in. You lose an enemy and gain a friend. +2, bb!
Good shit, you get the game. It’s all about numbers good bad or ugly. Hate for the idea and the actions, a way out for those looking to change and join the ranks of the opposition.
I’ve been dwelling on something I overheard for the last week- “that didn’t define me, I transcended it.”
Whether it was something I did / mistake I made or something that happened / was done to me, it doesn’t define me, I transcended beyond it.
Same as if my boot was stuck in the mud, it was only stuck until I pulled it free. Once I wash the mud off, it’s just a boot again.
There’s a story of a rude and hateful boy. He would spend his days hurting others. One day the father said every time you spite someone you will put a nail in our fence. Day after day nails were hammered into the fence. One day on returning home the boy noticed the fence with countless ugly rusting nails sticking out of it and decided then and there to change. Day after day the boy became kind, helpful, and friendly to everyone. The father said to him each day that goes by take a nail out of the fence. Finally one day the boy was removing the last nail. The father said you can work to better yourself and amend wrongdoings but the damage will always be there, be remembered, forgiven but not forgotten. So to my son don’t ever fear working to undo the wrongs you have done but know to mind your actions as they will leave a lasting mark on the world and people around you.
So, the moral of the story is that if you’re too kind and friendly your fence will fall apart.
No
I think it’s pretty clear that if you take all the nails out of a fence it will fall down.
It’s a Japanese fence not held together by nails or glue.
Ah, so nails are a precious commodity, and you should try to make sure you have as many as you can.
