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    Then they are among the cowards. If they weren’t, they would seek out equal minded people and try to do something more effective than just marching.

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      This doesn’t help. It’s victim blaming. The marching is the effort. People only have access to what they see and what they hear. If there are no marches, then what most people only see and hear is a curated narrative by the billionaires. The marches show others they aren’t alone. If you truly want a progressive uprising, stop being a dick, and encourage those who are trying to win back our country from fascists.

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        The people are not the victim here, the people are the ones who are guilty this happened in the first place.
        USA may be a flawed democracy, but it is still a democracy.
        So no this is not victim blaming.

        The marches show others they aren’t alone.

        Again only excuses. You can march, but that is not enough. There needs to be clear demands, and there needs to be planned actions if demands aren’t met.
        It’s trivial to put up websites that can work independently from the media controlled by the 1%.
        That can organize local groups, and states and federal at the highest level.
        But nobody is doing anything. Apparently Americans won’t sacrifice anything to rescue their democracy and country. 😔

        Unfortunately you average Democrat is not your best friend on this issue, they are happily letting everything happen, and some even support it! They hope they will take the next turn, and win the next election by a landslide, and then the pendulum can go on like that forever. Except this may be the last chance for USA to save their democracy.

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          We are emphatically not a democracy. We are a Republic, and the representatives have gone rogue and have corrupted the current system.

          You really have no idea how the US functions, and you’re embarrassing yourself with this ongoing rhetoric. What even is your goal here? Is your intention to demoralize the people fighting the fascism?

          You fuckin people sometimes… Such big words, but nothing constructive or actionable. Toddlers yelling into the wind…

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            He has a secret shame kink, so the more we make fun of him for being a fucking imbecile, the closer he gets to one day having an erection again.

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          Get over there and be the change you want to see.

          Or just be the keyboard warrior coward you know you are.

          🐔💩

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            Pushing the blame doesn’t help, but apparently many Americans are reduced to exactly that.
            Why would I go to USA to fix your problems, when my friends and family are all here, and I can’t vote in USA?
            Making that ridiculous statement only shows you know I am right. And you are just deflecting.

            What would be your reaction if I claim you should go to Iran and help get rid of their religious government?
            It’s ridiculous, but somehow Americans think it’s some sort of argument when it regards USA?

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          It’s trivial to put up websites that can work independently from the media controlled by the 1%.

          And then nobody but a few selected people ever see them because there is also the non-trivial part: actual media reach

          Sure you can put the website up, but the 1% still control all the mechanisms used to bring it to the attention of most people.

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      Your armchair judgements mean nothing. Come over here and find out how it really is if you’re so tough, and this is all as easy as you claim.

      Or maybe sit down and shut up about shit know nothing about.

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      How come that doesn’t apply to you?

      Like, maybe we could argue you’re a giant pussy because all you do is post online rather than take up arms and help your neighbors out.

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        I am not American, USA is not my country, but they are harmful to my country because Trump is a well known Malignant narcissist, and the American people elected him anyway.

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          They elected him twice. It hurts me to say it, but (most) Americans are evil as fuck. It’s just this deeply toxic culture, which gets reproduced in every aspect of their lives.

          They are obsessed with violence, their cars a basicly tanks, they have more guns then people, no maternity protections, mass surveillance, they worship their celebrities like drones their queen. They start war after war, build torture prisons around the world, destroy the environment, they bomb schools then turn around and say shit like: Thank you for you service. But don’t blame the soldiers, they have no choice. They call it “Land Of The Free”, “A shining city upon a hill”, they say “Make America Great Again”.

          Every half decent thing they monetise until it’s hollowed out, they poison, cheat, scam, torture, kill, then lie about it. Most of all they lie to themselfs. They are vampires of the soul, ghouls of the heart, monsters in human form. And their fucking culture expands like a virus.

          And I speak with the pain of a disappointed lover, I loved their music, their artistic brilliance as shown in movies, musicals, theater, literature, journalism, hell even tec. But it’s all a big scam, designed to amass power. Designed to enslave and exploit every last corner of this earth.

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            It hurts me to say it, but (most) Americans are evil as fuck.

            I’m glad you’re hurt because being offensively hyperbolic should hurt. MOST Americans are evil? Fuck off, man. You really don’t know shit about this country if you think that. Ignorant, oblivious, sure. But Evil? Were most Germans evil in the 1930s?

            You’ve fallen for propaganda and somehow landed on a high horse

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              Oh poor fellow, I’m sorry I made you a victim of my linguistic violence here. Land of the free, home of the brave, right? Just be glad my country never bombed one of your schools. But then again, we really don’t have to, since you guys shoot those little bastards yourself.

              But I could tell you a lot about WW2 Germany. Concentration Camps were an open secret. For example, in my own home county, there was one of those camps. In 1945 there was a big escape. Civilians from all around came together to hunt and kill the escapees. From 500 escapees 11 survived. I would call that evil.

              Now this flame of evil has passed onto you guys. And you carry it with pride and ignorance.

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              Your countries history is one of destruction to the world and to itself; its laws gave the Nazies theirs, its policies deposed many democratically elected governments for economic gain all while its people reaped the benefits of said imperialism without question.

              The poster is right.

              Ignorance of the evil your country does is not an excuse and doesnt shield you, it includes you.

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            Exactly, I too used to look up to American society in the 70’s, strongly influenced by TV shows, where Americans obviously always are the good guys. But that was also when Carter became president, and decency was an important part of the American administration. But since then it has been downhill politically, regarding decency and trying to build a better society for all.

            I’ve been arguing for more than 2 decades that American society is now decidedly sociopathic.
            3 times and you’re out, lack of healthcare to big portions of the population. Extreme poverty despite USA is one of the richest countries in the world.
            Complete failure in weapons control despite schools shootings are so common it’s barely news worthy anymore.
            Police killing people for no reason even in their own homes, because police entered the wrong house.
            Police almost never being held accountable. But they still allow death penalty!
            Massive CO2 pollution per capita and doing very little about it, and still driving big gas guzzling SUVs. USA is far from lifting their share in preventing global warming. It’s even a popular political viewpoint to make it worse instead, actively preventing improvements!
            People die because their insurance doesn’t cover a friggin ambulance, and they don’t want to call it because they can’t afford it!
            Discrimination even legally of minorities like LGBT. And also widespread discrimination of people of color. This in a multiethnic country that built its economy on slavery!

            The list simply goes on and on, and for about 2 decades there has been just about ZERO progress!! It’s sickening and insane how morally and politically backwards and intolerant Americans are as a society.

            But I think it is reaching a point where American society is so toxic, it’s beginning to hurt their economy, in part because the world is disgusted by them, and in part because an unhealthy society is simply bad for the economy. Worse educated workers, and less motivated, and more often sick. If you have a skill, don’t go to USA because they pay more. It will ruin your family life, your life/work balance, and you will die younger.

            Edit:
            Wow, some idiot downvoted this. 🤡 What a clown, not even able to point out a single inaccuracy. 🤣
            Because it’s ALL TRUE!

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              Yes and what shithole do you hail from, so we can blame you personally for all the things that your country hasn’t yet solved.

              Like…are you really this fucking stupid or is there some kind of contest you’re hoping to win today?

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                Yes and what shithole do you hail from,

                Whataboutism

                so we can blame you personally for all the things that your country hasn’t yet solved.

                Straw man argument, in the above post I describe American society, There is no blame of any individuals.

                Like…are you really this fucking stupid

                Shifting focus with a personal attack, but not addressing a single actual flaw in anything I wrote.

                My guess is you are American, and you are butthurt about people being angry with your country, instead of just blaming Trump.
                Well I got news for you, that should have registered a long long time ago. Trump is not the disease, he is a symptom of a sick society.
                A sick society is like having cancer, not all cells in your body are cancerous, but if enough are, you die anyway.
                The American society is in much the same way suffering from mental illness, so badly that they are doing harm to each other because of it, with sociopathic laws. And now with a mad administration they are lashing out to every country they have relations to.
                Except for some reasons the countries that are enemies of democracy like Russia and North Korea. And Israel a country that is committing genocide and war crimes on a daily basis.

                I may be an idiot, but that doesn’t change that USA is behaving like a psychopath as a country, and is causing harm to themselves and around the world.

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                  People should be angry with the country. The government has been overrun by barbarian billionaires and they’re harming billions of others.

                  None of that gives you the right to blame the 300 million people trapped here, the vast majority of whom do not approve of Trump and his bullshit.

                  And if you were here to do anything other than wave your rage boner around a room of people uninterested in seeing it, you’d understand.