75% of Canadians supported Carney backing out of the trade deal. This is despite the fact that it will cause massive economic hardship to Canada to accept these tariffs.
Canadians are pissed, and are willing to accept economic hardship in order to stand up to a bully.
For decades Canada has just accepted whatever the US has demanded. For example, Canada has aligned its copyright laws to match US laws, which Hollywood was demanding. It has accepted that Canadians installing a Canadian-made app on their phones have to pay a 30% cut to an American company.
This was because the US, in exchange, was giving Canada free access to the American market. Canadian potash, lumber, energy, etc. could all be sold to the US without tariffs. Now Trump has reneged on that deal.
Carney has promised counter-tariffs, but I want to see a real trade war. Fuck the US copyright laws. Fuck the DMCA. Fuck American printers that won’t allow you to use your own ink. Fuck US tractors that can only be repaired by their US manufacturer. Canada should not only refuse to honour US intellectual property, I want Americans to travel to Canada to get their phones unlocked, to pay Canadians online for software to de-DRM their printers. What’s the downside? The US will counter with tariffs? Done that. The US will try to cut Canada’s access to Netflix off? We have bittorrent here.
Americans keep talking about this being a David vs Goliath fight, but for an ultra-religious country, they sure don’t seem to remember how that bible story ended.
They must be punished! I need the entire world to put the Untied States on economic time out until it behaves
Traitor Danielle Smith from Alberta has been suspiciously quiet, since she is on the white houses payroll I expect her to break ranks pretty soon.
She’s already talking about how we need to get back to the negotiating table really soon.
Positive reinforcement works as well! Gotta give blue states something good to entice fence sitters. For instance, you could annex Minnesota.
Sincerely
A Minnesotan
Open invitations to provincehood should be extended to all states. Michigan specifically should be made aware that “it would be a shame if their nice auto plants exploded.”
Take cascadia too please!
Extend Cascadia to the Mexican border lol
New York is right here for the taking. Annex Niagra Falls!
Slowly I turned…
step by step…
inch by inch…
Canada save us. We are poor and starving here rn! Send hookers and cocaine immediately!
Wait, please. With all due respect, and if you wouldn’t mind:
If alphabetical order is at all a consideration, I think Massachusetts should go first.
Don’t forget Maine will be before you (ง’̀-‘́)ง
Ok sounds good. First order of business:
🎵 The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit now of Canada
the rest of it
The spirit of the last letter being zed…
The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit now of Canada,
The spirit of the red, white and red! 🎶
ya, but they’ll want the good hockey players.
I like the sound of that. Join the upstairs party, let’s have a chill night while they argue downstairs.
Cascadia stands ready!
Sorry, but the whole ship is going down.
ChatGPT, how can I repatriate as a Minnesotan?!
“The red states, we’re going to hit hard,” said Ford.
I mean, you can do it, and if the goal is to expend Canadian economic resources to get catharsis, or to score political points with fed-up Canadian voters, okay, but the deep red states aren’t going to turn blue, and what matters to the Republican Party is going to generally be control of political entities. Trump hasn’t generally adopted policies that are particularly fantastic for a lot of his rural, red-state supporters anyway.
The states that matter politically in terms of control of the federal Executive Branch (and the federal Senate) are purple. That’s where the US political parties stick their resources when they fight with each other, and if the aim is to alter US political outcomes via economic pressure—assuming that that is viable—that’s where pressure would have the largest effect.
For the House, sub-state-level electoral districts matter, and purple districts would matter, but the Democratic Party is likely to get control of the House in the upcoming midterms, in any event.
Affecting state legislature control, one would look for purple state-level districts. That would have limited direct effect on US foreign policy, though. It could have subtle, long-term effects, in that control of states can affect state-level policies that affect the federal House, gerrymandering of federal districts for the House, stuff like that. The impact is pretty indirect, though.
That was Ford. He doesn’t actually decide any of it, except, I guess, liquor sales in his province of Ontario. It may very well be campaigning on his part.
The actual strategy, per the federal minister, is to try and offset the lost business for industries effected by removing competing American imports, and to maintain the effort until Trump’s term ends (and further if necessary).
Targeting red states was the what we did last time, when it was less serious, and pressure from whatever donor or congressmen really mattered. Don’t worry, we watch the magic wall on CNN as well.
He does have a bit more wiggle room than buying or not buying liquor. He can assert pressure through some of the manufacturing in Ontario and energy exports. Nothing equivalent to what can happen at the federal level, but more than not buying liquor
For Americans who may not know, when Trump said:
“…primarily Governor Carney, and his Flunky, Ford…”
He was referring to Prime Minister Carney, not a governor, and the Ontario Provincial Premier Doug Ford. They aren’t even in the same party. Doug Ford is kind of a Canadian Trump Lite who keeps winning elections despite only getting 30-40% of the vote. He’s just very loud and I wish journalists would stop quoting him.
Yes, in normal times Carney and Ford would barely be on speaking terms. Ford is hardly Carney’s flunky. But, this is a case of opponents joining together to fight an even bigger enemy.
He’s very loud and definitely has a similar vibe, but he’s taken the opposite tack with America as all our other conservatives, and actually does get along really well with the Liberal government behind closed doors.
It might be because Rob, also mentioned in the tweet, OD’d, so now the smart brother is carrying on. There isn’t really an American equivalent. Churchill is an interesting British parallel, in both the good and bad ways.
Ford is an absolute piece of shit, yeah. He’s a conservative who has absolutely gutted our healthcare, education, social services and countless other things. He’s also currently in a war against bikes and has been getting bike lanes ripped out all over the province.
I hate him with a passion but he has at least been very offensive in asserting our sovereignty which is nice even if it’s completely shallow and done purely for his own self interests. Marlaine on the other hand though…
I know he’s a conservative piece of shit but I will never get the bike thing. Usually his issues are all about capitalism and private ownership and bullshit like that.
Arcanepotato’s response nails most of it I think but my understanding is also that his commute (when he actually goes into the office) is primarily down a traffic-heavy street that happens to have a bike lane and he’s bitter seeing cyclists fly past him while he’s stuck in gridlock; so in spite of them, he’s dedicated himself to ripping that lane out along with all the others in this province
He called him governor to continue the threat of making Canada an American state. And boy is America in a state.
Jesus Christ. This is the most highschool trade war I’ve ever witnessed.
Imagine the cost of living being tied to a schoolyard fight. Add it to Trump’s list of treasons.
Ford has always been good at snappy one liners in the press. Trump Lite is right.
Carney can talk all he wants about balanced economic reciprocity, but you know Ford easily gets to the top of Trump’s media feed when he says shit like “then we’ll shut off the water and power!”
I know this is true and I hate it.
I can’t believe this even needs to be explained. But so many of them don’t bother to learn anything about us.
Spewing nonsense just makes Trump supporters want him even harder. All he has to do is stroke a nerve which is something he’s great at.
Should only be part of strategy. Should give strong investment/production ultimatums to specific large US companies that sell to Canadians. Failure to comply with ultimatums results in much better value to Canadians from Chinese alternatives.
Canada understanding the nuances, we appreciate you Canada.
Canada will always have an ally in the West Coast.
dear mr. poopy pants:
fuck off.
sorry. we’re canadian. let me rephrase that, eh?
kindly fuck off.
we’ll talk to the next guy or gal in charge.
from the great white north,
canadaelbows up!
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Who said that?
Doug Ford
as shitty as the guy is, at least he’s standing up to Trump
I just hope Ontarians don’t forget how he has and continues to fuck them over
According to the article it was Doug Ford.
