cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/9388376
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After reading remarks from libs on Lemmy, I want to point out two things:
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No significant number of leftists would vote for a real estate mogul turned fascist gameshow host. If you believe otherwise, it’s likely because it makes thinking about the US political situation easier by giving you another illiberal fall guy.
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Voting in the US is a pastiche of democratic participation, made to look like we’ve been handed all we need to make the democracy machine go brrr. We revere it so much because it’s the best we’ve ever had, but other braver and more imaginative people have tried more direct, less capitalistic methods of democracy, usually before being crushed, libelled, bombed or couped by the US and its allies. If Americans ever find the backbone to collectively fight and make sacrifices for something better, future generations might have a chance of not growing up in the most grotesque, inhuman future imaginable. Libs can help with this, but you’re the only ones who can decide whether you put your efforts toward capitalism or democracy. They’re like oil and water.
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The bottom one is likely to destroy the child crushing machine by being inept. The top will keep it maintained for decades to come.
“I threw too many children in at the same time and now the gears are all gunked up :(”
“We should start a domestic education program allowing the working class to learn how to clean the gears for free if they spend 4 years rounding up kids to throw in there”.
All the bureaucracy is suddenly smooth sailing when they want to bomb the fuck out of kids in the middle east, but all these weird rules and regulations are in the way of anything remotely challenging their interests.
Weird how democracy works that way. Almost like that’s the point!
So true lol. “Think about the long term consequences of raising wages by 1%!!!”
Gee, we’re so sorry, but we’d have to draft up a new bill and then vote on it and then in 1+ years when that bill doesn’t pass we will have to draft up a shittier one that still won’t pass
But the parlimtarian!
I see some libs are angry with this. Lmao (Republicans can also go fuck themselves)
Republicans are libs too, in that they too support the continuation of the child crusher that is capitalist hegemony. Leftism begins with anti-capitalism. The US has two pro-capitalist parties with different branding, much like Pepsi and Coke.
The US has two pro-capitalist parties with different branding, much like Pepsi and Coke.
Sorry, but to have them understand better it’s better to have them understand in burger talk
So imagine Mcdonalds and Burger King…
No no, Pepsi and Coke is an amazing analogy. Red vs. Blue, hundreds of years of brand loyalty, people say shit like “we’re a Pepsi household”, both are really not good for you. Only meaningful difference is the color on the label.
Comparing McDonald’s to Burgerking is just crazy talk because everyone I’ve ever met will agree that Burger King sucks. But start them on Pepsi VS. Coke? You might start a fight.
No no, Pepsi and Coke is an amazing analogy. Red vs. Blue, hundreds of years of brand loyalty, people say shit like “we’re a Pepsi household”, both are really not good for you.
ok, that’s a good argument lol, can’t argue against that.
Republicans are just more honest about their immorality and self-centered sociopathy. 🤷♂️
With themselves, even. Republicans let it out, liberals make a perverse game of almost never letting it out.
Not sure if I am angry, or just resigned that we will always have Trump like figures in office so that some voters can feel morally superior.
I personally think the moral thing to do it vote for the first comic if that is the choice on election day. In reality no 2028 Dem candidate will be like Biden on foreign affairs, and there will be much more accountability if Dems simply take the House and Senate compared with zero accountability on foreign affairs today.
In reality no 2028 Dem candidate will be like Biden on foreign affairs.
Kamala ran on having the same policies as Biden. What makes you think the next one won’t?
Kamala? The candidate picked by Biden and no one else had the same views as Biden? Wow!
Yeah, Kamala, the candidate who had the entire DNC apparatus working all the tricks of the trade in order for her to get the nomination, that one. What makes you think the next candidate won’t also be a ghoul?
Because no one could possibly be as poor a candidate as Kamala. You make it sound like a neoliberal conspiracy…what I remember was desperation and incompetence.
Once again. Your reasoning is why I am fully prepared to have Trump’s entire family run the country for a couple decades, give Israel open reign to do whatever they want, and for a bunch of non-voters pretending to care about Palestinians continue to sabotage themselves.
70% of Democrats want to stop funding Israel. Trump fights Benjamin Netanyahu’s wars for him. But they are exactly the same.
Newsome would be as bad as Kamala
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There’s plenty of high-ranking, influential, democrats that could be as influential as Kamala, why are you acting like Biden '20 and Kamala '24 was some fluke? And why are you singling out Netanyahu? Its not just these three people, its quite obviously the whole structure.
Because no one could possibly be as poor a candidate as Kamala.
Which dems have sufficiently different positions on foreign affairs?
70% of Democrats want to stop funding Israel. Trump fights Benjamin Netanyahu’s wars for him. But they are exactly the same.
USian dems have always been zionist, and they were no less enthusiastic about this than the current USian administration.
What are these mythical dems that supposedly want to stop applying Pissrael?I have no idea what your cute nicknames are referring to. Sufficiently different opinion? Literally everyone who didn’t want to go to war for Benjamin Netanyahu…which is everyone but Trump. Or how about anyone not dumb enough to send their son in law to solve middle easy peace. Night and day difference to anyone paying attention.
To be fair the conservative rapes the child before crushing it
Epstein was just as tight compadres with Bill Clinton.
True but republicans are constantly being arrested for pedophilia
is that… supposed to be an argument?
Just pointing out an observation
This is just straw, you didn’t even bait it
My god it’s even from Twitter
you didn’t even bait it
Idk, looking at the votes and comments i think i bait it pretty good
It really needs to have the panels expanded. Each panel should also have a “domestic child crushing machine” and the D one would not be going and the R would be crushing away.
That’s way more accurate to the real world.
“It should clarify that the lives of foreign children don’t matter compared to domestic ones!”
Free Palestine, Joe Biden and the Democratic party are guilty of genocide
The dems are also running a domestic child crusher. You people just don’t notice or care until a republican is in charge.
Look I’m not saying Dems are awesome, in fact I would say when it comes to foreign policy them and Republicans are pretty aligned. Behaving like there hasn’t been huge differences in policy, legislation, enforcement priorities, regulation, education and healthcare spending between Democratic and Republican majorities in Congress and/or President is insane though. Like just head in the sand ignoring reality levels of crazy.
Buddy, i live in California and vote left of demo when possible. The Dems here actually want the status quo of homeless children as long as property values keep going up. Insanity
Sweet. Ableism. Funny how you types resort to it so easily.
Behaving like there is some huge difference between them is what is “head in the sand crazy.” The reasons for this observation have been listed throughout this thread, yet oddly enough none of you people manage to engage with any of the many comments giving explicit examples, nor do you manage to engage with any of the comments detailing the worldview. Which is odd. Its almost like you’re just here to argue and dont actually care about this at all.
Or maybe you just can’t handle investigating your own ideology or the faulty notions you hold.
Ah, so you’re a moderate.
Not wanting to commit genocide is a pretty moderate position, sure.
But you see, both sides bad. There’s no nuance.
“Both sides” its the same side dumbass.
Nuance my ass. Nuance in politics when mentioned by fool like you is akin to people screaming “let people enjoy things!” when someone dares say their Marvel slop sucks.
You rigidly support the democrats no matter what and you screech at any critique, no matter how correct. Yeah, seems real nuanced.Nuance isn’t just when you support genocide, but feel kinda bad about it. Nuance definitely isn’t when you reduce the modern capitalist oligarchy into a binary, with no other options. Real nuance is a discussion of abstaining from voting vs. Voting third party.
Hitler was considered lesser evil. So this comic makes even less sense.
Edit: I’ve had that completely wrong in my mind
But he wasn’t, it was the recently elected social democrat president Hindenburg who appointed Hitler as chancellor thus granting him his rise to power. The liberal society of the Weimar Republic viewed Hitler as more evil, but chose the “lesser evil” of SPD over the Communist Party’s candidate, who promptly appointed Hitler as chancellor.
Hindenburg hated the Social Democats, what are you talking about?
Oh, whoops. He was independent, supported by every liberal party including the socdems. Point still stands, though: lesser evil was voted in over greater evil, changing nothing and leading to Hitler anyhow. Oversimplification of history obv; corporate lobbying, false flag operations to blame the communists and the death of the president etc followed.
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Remember kids, youre either supporting evil or evil with a happy face and there’s no other options, absolutely none at all, so you might as well vote for evil with a happy face - It’s not like we have done this for decades and the strategy has lead us to a point where the only difference is whether or not the senile maniac in charge wears self-tanner or not.
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You fed the little evil for decades until it grew big enough to eclipse humanity’s future.
There is no viable alternative, and your choices are the big evil or the little evil. You can either vote for the little evil or accept the big evil!
There is a viable alternative, it’s called organizing and overthrowing your damn government.
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Tell me where you live and I’ll tell you three orgs you can join this instant. You could figure it out yourself too, but I dont mind doing the googling for you.
You’re right there’s only two parties in the us and you have to vote for one of them, otherwise you get shot. And thats the only things that are possible for you to do.
Guess we just have to walk down this road until the lesser evil party is also goose-stepping on your neck and then I gotta walk all alone. I’ll walk by the cage in which they keep you and tell you I am real sad about it, but I had to do it because the other party was less cordial. Then ill go have brunch with whoevers left in the electoral hellscape we have created by inchworming towards a completely avoidable Armageddon if we had only had spine. But we dont, we’ve got mimosas instead.
Do you even listen to yourself? lol
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Why even tolerate that kind of system? At that point, burn it all down.
Guess what, both of these choices still kill people outside your country. And Trump, being incompetent as he is, is actually making the system collapse which is in fact a huge benefit to the rest of the world (and the rest of the world’s population is fucking substantially more than Amerika)
Guess what, both of these choices still kill people outside your country.
Don’t forget inside our country too!
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Based on your last paragraph, it seems that you prefer the greater evil. That checks out, “both sides” bullshit is pretty universally pushed by Republicans.
Based on your posts, it seems you don’t care about genocide and destroying countries as long as you get your treats. That’s “lesser evil” for you.
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How did not electing harris work out for Gaza? Still rubble? Shame. I definitely thought the right wing was gonna help Palestine, lol.
Wow, look at that, a scratched liberal. I love how you people get smug about genocide. You fucking monster.
Only fascists like you will consider genocide a bipartisan issue. Go fuck yourself.
I definitely thought the right wing was gonna help Palestines
You’re right about one thing. Harris is part of the right wing.
Hey wasn’t it Joe Biden who was a fervent supporter of Israel while he was pretending he wasn’t? What was it Kamala said about him? Was it something about she would have done as he did? Damn that’s crazy, good things all those missiles and guns and bullets and money didnt work until Trump came into power.
I see we’re back to the same posts that came up in the 2024 election. Tying to get people to not bother voting.
Which child crushing policitian will you vote for?
The one who supports trans rights :3
Are you talking about the one who said that trans people should “follow the law” when asked about their persecution? The one from the party that concluded it had to be less woke to win elections, after eating shit again? The one who has a long track record of doing nothing, at best, for trans people? The one who did nothing to defend roe v. Wade? That one? Yeah, what a great idea, surely signalling that you are completely fine with being thrown under the bus and persecuted (as long as there’s a guy with a combover opposing them) will not at all come back to bite you in the ass. How’s the poem go?
First they put children in tiny cages, but I didnt care because it was Obama who did it and besides I’m still sitting nifty, so who gives a shit.
Then they bombed trans people, but they were brown, so I’m still sitting pretty.
And thats it, im hunky dory.Like the right not to be subject to genocide and apartheid? Oh wait, I forgot that you don’t consider non-white people human.
I’m joking silly. I’m not white. All politicians are garbage. Fuck them all
If you say so. I’m not convinced
I’ve not seen either of them do that. The best we’ve gotten is them pretending to support trans rights, then immediately backing down when they have the power to do something about it.
Who’s that?
Seriously @dismay3915@lemmy.world, which candidate that supports the rights of trans Palestinians did you vote for?
I think they were being sarcastic?
Doesn’t look like it
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Damn, good one bro, you must have got so many updoots
Some old corrupt fucker with a smart PR team
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Can you point out where the comic suggests that you shouldn’t bother voting? Because I must have missed that part.
Are you stupid
Are you? Can you at least try to be a little articulate? Or is that beyond your obviously limited capabilities?
Is there more than two parties in the US?
Functionally not, but voting third party is at least better than not voting
Alright, so you can vote for someone other than the orphan crushers. Weird how you pretended like that wasn’t a possibility.
It has proven to be less effective at stopping the orphan crushing machine than voting for democrats. It is possible that in the long run it could be more effective, though that has not yet been proven.
It has proven to be less effective at stopping the orphan crushing machine than voting for democrats.
Has it? Did the orphan crushing machine even slow down a little bit when democrats were in power? Because I’m pretty sure that it didn’t.
Doing something that hasnt been done has not been proven to do anything because it hasnt been done. Voting democrat has only accelerated the orphan-killer, so I struggle to see how legitimising the people who want to kill orphans could in any way be a more effective way to stop them than doing the bare minimum of not legitimising them.
Voting, at least at a national level, doesn’t change anything, because we are not ruled by politicians but by corporations who own those politicians. At a communal level it’s different, but that’s not the topic here. What it does though, is giving legitimacy to an illegitimate system. If 80% of people would not vote, the system would quicky start to have a legitimacy crisis.
Why does the system need your sense of its legitimacy
A system only really functions as long as it’s subjects perceive it as legitimate. Once you lose legitimacy, people start taking action.
It doesn’t need my sense of legitimacy but if 80% of people say no it will have a problem justifying itself.
Why does it need to justify itself? What do you think happens when it does not?
It would be nice to find out, seeing as how the current strategy of voting blue no matter what very observably leads to genocide and less and less differences between the two parties.
Is this some kind of ploy to try and find some “Voting is always good” counter point, that voting in and of itself is democracy and having that is better then nothing? Which is why you seem to be implying that the system doesn’t need to justify itself, that if the system didn’t do that it would still function and people would still participate, because it is, after all, “Democracy”?
Quit beating around the bush and just say what you mean instead of being a coy annoyance.
I don’t mean anything yet. I’m trying to find out what the system being “justified” functionally does, from your perspective. From my perspective you’re being vague, I’m trying to find my way through the bush here, not beat around it.
Communists critique of Democrats: Somehow both not at all relevant or to be taken into account and also the reason KKKopmala lost
Choose one:
- a kick in the balls and a taco.
- a kick in the balls, acid to the face, and shot in each leg.
Both sidesists:
See! See! They’re exactly the same! They’re both gonna kick us in the balls!
Is the taco coming from all the immigrants the democrats deported? They even ran on being tougher on immigration than Trump. They deported more people than he did. Is that where the taco is coming from?
It really is a reminder of how much western shitlibs don’t consider foreigners human that they would equivocate a modern Holocaust with 'a kick to the balls and a taco"
Sometimes I’ll see liberals hating on the left for losing them the election by not voting for the lesser evil and they’ll say “and she’s not even that bad they just don’t like her laugh”.
Like imagine someone saying the only reason people hate Hitler is because he’s erratic in his speeches.
My favourite is when they talk about genocide in Palestine like it’s a bipartisan FOOTNOTE and act smug about it. Even had one in this very thread.
Are you evil naturally, paid for or just incredibly mentally lacking? Do you understand that the West stands solely through oppression and murder on a global scale? Why do you minimize it to a “kick in the balls”? Because they’re not yours, but of other people who don’t share your race? Do you understand what you’re saying here? Goddamn.
Easy for you when you aren’t the one being kicked. Also you missed where both kill tens of thousands of children.
Did you forget about the millions of dead children your country produces or did you have to make it about you again?
Oh, they didn’t forget, they clearly just don’t care.
That’s called a whataboutism, friend.
Whataboutism isn’t what that is, but whataboutism is also just a term made up by a zionist and then propagated by the CIA in order to stop people like you from thinking about things.
No it isn’t, you fucking idiot
I hope you’re talking about their comment and not mine, because the post is literally about the child crushing machine.
I think it would be more realistic like this.
Choose one:
- murder strangers and ignore you mostly.
- murder strangers but kick you in the balls.
Democrat voters:
You are blind if you don’t see the difference.
You’re ignoring the stated viewpoint and making up one thats easier to argue against. Its clear that in the eyes of the poster they both give the same thing, one is just rude about it. Either argue for why being rude about it matters so much or argue for why they aren’t creating the same conditions.
hmm, those both choices you laid out; how do the people outside your country get affected by these elections?
Generally, much worse under republicans. Republicans like to start wars.
If you are saying this unironically you need to open a history book and look outside your bubble. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Haiti, former Yugoslavia, Sudan, Gaza, Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Somalia and many many more attacked and or destroyed under democrats.
Republicans like to start wars.
Compared to Democrats? How? Libya, Syria and Yemen were attacked under a Democratic president. In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.
Or better yet, the escalation of the genocide under Joe Biden? The genocidal monster who loves “Israel” so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM
Turns out, outside of Amerika; there is in fact not a single fucking difference between these 2 parties. All you care about is domestic affair concerning your treats. You don’t give a fuck about people outside your area.
“Treats” like access to healthcare and food?
Going back to brunch
Totally, and “treats” like bombs and death for the brown people! great system you guys have.
Yes, exactly those.
In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars, and only democrats have ended them. I’m almost 40.
In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.
And Donald Trump started a war with them.
In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars
Are you less than two years old? Did you already forget that the most recent blue government invaded Yemen and prepared to invade Iran?
This dude just admitted to being 2 years old
Libya, Syria, Kosovo, Bosnia and various drone campaigns. There are probably others in the last 40 years.
-Libya
-Niger
-Syria
-Yemen
All places intervened in by a democrat in recent memory, both parties are extremely militaristic.
am from outside the us.
nope. no worse than democrats.
Wait but if you’re bluemaga, why do you portray the one where you don’t get trump as worse?
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hint
“taco” trump
