Having recently seen the first trilogy among Nolan’s works, I wonder what opinions you hold about the movies in general. Seeing that I’m quite late to the party, I expect some strong and mature takes in the comments, but you are still free to voice any opinion you may have.

  • Toasticus@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    I felt that they were the most definitive Batman movies we’ll get for a while. I don’t think it was fair for people to uphold Dark Knight Rises against the Dark Knight, because the bar was already set high. It was all a nice breath of fresh air to have a series of movies that didn’t play up to a lot of fan service like the MCU did.

    To this day though, I really don’t like how growling Batman got when he spoke. What was up with that? Give him a freaking cough drop.

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    2 months ago

    First movie was OK, It laid a good foundation.

    The second one was great.

    The third one was absolutely terrible.

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    i wouldn’t say bale is a bad actor, but he was vastly overshadowed by the rest of the cast, at least in part 1–morgan freeman, michael caine, cillian murphy, gary oldman, and whoever else was in there

    part 2 was ok but way over hyped and overrated

    part 3 was the worst, felt like nolan phoned in the whole movie

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      Morgan Freeman was in the cast as well???!!! Somehow I assumed he was only destined to narrate throughout his entire career that I failed to acknowledge his existence as an actor even when he was in front of the screen countless times.

      I was equally fascinated by the performance of each actor in the trilogy and hold no particular actor above the other, though I prefer Michael Caine in particular simply due to his role as a British, good-willed and supportive butler according to the plot.

      I agree that the 2nd movie was overrated. I assumed by the plethora of Joker memes that the movie would be an all-time cinematic masterpiece. The Joker’s character was certainly entertaining and unique, but it was not magnificent enough to rate it above all other antagonists in the movie industry.

      I have mixed feelings about the 3rd movie. Some scenes had poor executions or just felt frustrating. However the first and last quarters if the movie kind of redeemed the movie for its imperfections and ultimately I was completely satisfied with its ending.

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    I relly like them. He took Batman to a complete different direction and showed that comic book addaptation can be more than just goofy fan servicy kind of movies.

    The first 2 movies were really good, the thrid kinda meh.

    What I wanted to add is, that watching the movies today with the abundance of hereo movies, will make them feel worse than they were when they came out. Because quite a few of the movies today took inspiration and expanded on what made this movies great.

    TLDR what I like about the movies is how they made movies for all instead of juat comic fans like we were used to up until them. Specially for DC heroes.

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    Pretty good movies.

    But I think that also understates how influential they were to superhero popular culture. It bears remembering that prior to the BatTrilogy, for a decade-ish superhero films had been either the squeezed-dry sequels of B-list characters, comedies, aimed largely at kids, and/or barely resembled their source material. While 90s and early 00s Superhero comics were moving through their edgy antihero phases, films struggling to define themselves.

    The Nolan Trilogy brought the idea of Batman as a tortured loner, alienated from his family and allies, into the broader popular culture. Batman allows villains to die, spies on innocents, and eschews sidekicks. There is no Justice League. “You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain” is not the sentiment that pervaded superhero screen media in the years prior to the Nolan trilogy.

    Even if you don’t like superhero stuff, they’re worth watching just as an artifact of mid-late 00’s culture, in my opinion.

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      2 months ago

      I used to deliberately avoid them for the express purpose of being an MCU fan, but after watching a handful of Nolan’s films I decided to give them a try, and I was not disappointed at all

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        They were definitely better than the marvel movies IMO, like, significantly better.

        Marvel movies are (mostly) OK if you view them from an action movie lens.

        The Dark Knight movies were actually fairly OK as movies rather than just being action movies.

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    I prefer the Marvel-type superhero movies where they don’t take everything so seriously and pretend that the premise isn’t ridiculous. I guess I just wonder “why so serious”?

    Batman isn’t an interesting character. His flamboyant rouges gallery is essential and I think a gritty/ realistic Batman-villain undercuts that.

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    It was so good that it wasnt until zack snyder’s justice league that i realised how much i missed that style of storytelling. and i understand these are different directors but they had the same goal. They are so strongly set apart from the rest of the cannon and so well told. everything else feels so rushed. and it is sad because when i sit down to listen to a story, i am dedicating my attention to it. and i want to see that kind of attention and appreciation reflected back to me. That it is like a gift. That is how i felt with the Nolan batmans.

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    My hot take is 3 feels like a movie about occupy wallstreet, but Nolan wasn’t allowed to show those parties having any kind of validity, and the script got rewritten. The last half is just so wildly lower in quality than the first half.

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    Too serious, too dark (literally hard to see, which is bad in a movie). So I didn’t bother with more than the first.

    I’m not a specific superhero movie fan, but have seen all of the marvel ones and like some of the DC ones too, like the latest superman. Since it’s a silly and unrealistic thing to begin with, I like superhero movie approaches that don’t take themselves fully seriously.

    Absolutely loved the Arkham Asylum game!

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    2 months ago

    They are fine. The worst thing about them is Bale and his weird BatVoice. Sounds exhausting lol.

    Anyway, might be unpopular opinon but I liked the 2022 Batman with Robert Pattinson better.

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      My only issue with the 2022 Batman is that Batman basically does nothing. He doesn’t figure out the riddlers clues or plan, and constantly messes up. It would have been better if he had a win or two throughout the movie.

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        I think that sort of stuff was in there to make it clear that he is still very much learning. He did get quite a few things correct, I think the only things that led him off was the silly “rata el rada is penguin” thing and not figuring out the carpeting tool.

        But I do agree, they could have maybe toned down some of the silly mistakes a bit. The rat with wings was completely stupid thing to make him miss it. Bats are widely known as rats with wings, penguins are not at all lol.

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          I got that he is supposed to come off inexperienced, the issue is that I’m not sure the plot of the entire movie changes much if he were removed from the events.

          He never solves the riddlers riddles, he has to be told the answer (which the riddler might have told to anyone at that point). He does disarm the shooters at the very end, but he doesn’t stop any killings/assassination attempt/flooding. It could be argued that maybe the politican would have been successfully killed if he didn’t stop the riddlers henchmen (I don’t think the shooter misses because of Batman, but can’t recall). Additionally, he was the one that really set off the falcone plot point, which may have been dealt with very differently if he didn’t get involved.

    • enchantedgoldapple@sopuli.xyzOP
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      Same opinion on the voice thing. He probably used to take a dozen cough pills every morning after doing that fake cringey voice at night as Batman.

      I have yet to watch The Batman, but I’ll be looking forward to it since I’ve been a fan of Robert Pattinson’s performance in the last few Nolan’s movies.

      • HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social
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        Richard Harris did a similar thing in Cromwell (1970). Though he did the voice by actually breaking his voice. Bale probably broke his voice for putting the voice on lol.

        Anyway, Harris’ voice was excellent in Cromwell. Bale’s voice was silly in Batman.

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    As batman movies go they’re pretty boring. It’s a dark and gritty hero, fighting dark and gritty villains, in a boring gritty city, with boring citizens. Their not bad movies. They were clearly made by clever talented people, good at what they do. But the result lacks any real contrast, just black on black on black on black. I’ll rewatch any other batman movie at the drop of a hat, no questions asked. I know I’ll be entertained. But I’m totally uninterested in rewatching the Nolan Batman movies.