• myyass@lemmy.world
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    After 15+ years, I actually just left reddit the other day, it’s a lot more fun here. I basically stuck around for a couple local communities. Now I’m just corrupting my posts to help out their IPO.

    They’re forcing you to be logged in just to view old.reddit now. So you need a phone number now. That’s not suspicious at all.

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      It undid itself somehow for me. I even uninstalled the extension for old reddit and it just loads up as old without login

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        Honestly, I just gave up on it. It’s probably partially because of all the extensions I have.

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        It drove me nuts. I really stayed for the local sub. It was nice knowing what was happening around town but oh well. Gotta check if there’s one here.

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          Definitely check, but niche content tends not to survive here. Reddit itself used to be like this, in its own early days.

          Though even on Reddit, so many niche subs look to be dying off, getting spammed by bots and disguised ads but the actual OC decreasing over time.

          And a lot of young people simply eschew social media altogether, preferring instead to hang out irl. That seems ideal actually… at least in an era where you cannot trust any information online.

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      People were reporting getting the old.reddit login wall way back but I guess it finally rolled out more, I’m getting it now too

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        I read a bit about it and some people suggested doing so and so. I decided I’m good at this point. I use waterfox, ublock, and noscript so it didn’t happen to me until yesterday. Besides, the advertising got so out of control, the small local subs having the “I ate this here” and “what’s the best place to have this food” got annoying. Let alone having some restaurant opening in six months having two of the same posts on the front page, like I said I stuck to small subs, and their website to be completely AI generated, images and all. Oh boy did the sub enjoy shitting all over them.

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          Fair, I think I’m going to use redlib as a workaround personally, even though the quality of the site is going downhill fast there’s still a lot of information I can’t really find elsewhere, and often search results where every other link is even more saturated with spam than the reddit comments are.

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        I’ve been here 3 years, and have had no motivation to go back.

        It’s definitely not the same - it is smaller. But I adjusted and it’s been good.

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        I’m actually surprised how much interaction there is here instead of being down voted by bots for criticizing a company. Heh the last post I made, someone was like I don’t know who is down voting you, someone that works for the company or a bot. And this was a small forum.

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    Imagine that. A business with no physical product gathers up the marketers. “How can we use words, along with the usual smoke and mirrors, to keep this empty gravy-train rolling?”. My cool “tech” companies nowadays produce healthy food.

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    YSK that reddit sucks donkey balls. (No offense to donkeys, whom are very cute)

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    They always use the word “trust” for the manipulation of Reddit conversations. Fucking ghouls.

    We need vetted online spaces that keep that shit out.

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      Be the change you want to see.

      That is not just good advice, it also helps us to feel less powerless about all that is going on in the world around us over which we have little to no control.

      Some people help the Threadiverse grow by making new accounts on instances other than Lemmy.World, which has like half the people and 90% of the most active communities. You’re fine to stay there, but you could help by posting to others that are on different instances, to help spread the load?

      And since you are on Lemmy.world, maybe help mod some of those existing ones… or create a new community of your own?

      There’s lots of ways to help out. By posting, you already do, and commenting too.

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        That’s a great question. And I don’t have an answer for large open platforms.

        It does make me yearn for smaller local communities that are actually communities and not just open spaces anyone can slither into. You know? It makes me realize how online spaces are not healthy. They were fine for a fleeting few years. But now they are co-opted and nasty.

        It’s an aspirational statement without practical easy action to take, yes.

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          You mean the basic premise of the internet?

          The internet solved these problems a long time ago by the basic network of relatively small communities being uninteresting targets. The modern internet broke everything by centralizing it all and inserting themselves in the middle to monetize. It added another layer to the OSI network model. The centralized corporate social media layer.

          They broke it and sold you the solutions to problems they caused.

          The core premise of reddit and Digg was that the people would decide by voting. We’ve seen ample evidence by now that this model doesn’t work. Yet lemmy is based on it. The saving grace might be federation. In other words the model you mentioned. In other words the internet.

          Vetting used to happen by persistent usernames that are known to be real life average people, with no apparent ulterior motives. Some social media sites like reddit killed that by making throwaway accounts common. Other social media sites made being a known user too dangerous due to popularity. Which reddit has fallen into now.

          Getting too popular means they might have sold out by becoming an “influencer”. It also means putting themselves in personal danger due to the psychos out there who would threaten their personal safety. Which drives away good users, leaving only the opportunists. We’ve been settling in a mix of both. A conveyor belt of pseudonyms that are basically farmed bot accounts for shilling, made to look trustworthy enough.

          The Digg/reddit vote model was a solution to a problem that didn’t exist. The problem it was really trying to solve was monetization. Digg tried to monetize and failed. Reddit tried for decades to monetize and it finally succeeded. Look what a piece of shit it is.

          It’s often talked about how to grow lemmy like other big social media. Maybe it doesn’t need to. That brings problems of the big social media sites.

          Something nobody ever mentions when reminiscing about the old internet is how slow and small forums were. There would be handful of new comments each day. Maybe a new thread or two. You check it once or twice a day, and then went outside. Nobody infinite scrolled the old forums. Nobody cared that there wasn’t enough content. If somebody had something to post, they posted. Otherwise they didn’t. No problem.

          If one forum wasn’t interesting enough. Then you went to others. If they all had nothing going on then you stopped looking at the internet.

          You establish trust the same way humans have since the dawn of history. Trust in a person and their wares is established by being a known poster with good history of being there to post when they had something meaningful to say. The guy shoveling his wares 24/7 is out for one thing. It’s the make money off you, or impose their opinions on people.

          Tech companies reinvent solutions to these things while disguising monetization schemes. We already had the solutions. Nobody uses those anymore.

          What we have now is a techbro libertarian hellhole they like to call zero trust society or whatever. So everyone operates under the premise that these problems they caused are solved by pure technology. Deposit your cryptocurrency now to obtain one unit of Trust™. Here is your Trusted™, not sponsored, non-affiliated content (terms and conditions apply). Don’t forget my fees for facilitating this exchange of Trust™. Thank for your patronage.

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    What an overwraught title. “Advertising company pitches effectiveness of their advertisements” like… yeah, that’s what they do? They’re desperately trying to figure out how to make reddit profitable because boy-fuckin’-howdy are they doomed, this is just yet another in a long line of wildly exaggerated pitches they’ve made.

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    A few years ago I saw someone post a link about a more generalized promo that offers companies live alerts about keyword mentions and brand management.

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    Ban indiscriminately, use only company-approved AI bots, profit.

    Cant wait until the mask slips and even the layman can see.