Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

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    Except that Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie. Russia and hamas are aggressors.

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      Ukraine attacking Russia was a lie, Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine is reality.

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        The sad news in reality is more people and more and more get killed every hour. I just can’t watch it anymore.

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        If you say so. Still it didn’t worth it to plan and perform that October 7th aggression. To think how much time and resources that required and how much stuff could be done instead to actually improve the lives of Palestinians, it’s sad and should be embarrassing.

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            Right? If they cared they wouldn’t have attacked.

            The median age of Palestinians is 18 which means more than half weren’t alive for the vote of Hamas. Now, Hamas has dismantled any democracy so they can’t even take a diplomatic route. And Israel keeps bombing them making sure they continue the system of oppression which in turn spawns more radicals.

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              Oh, look… more white supremacists blaming the colonized for their own genocidal colonization.

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                  Gee, I wonder what this reminds me of?

                  It’s almost like it reminds me of some other fundamentally white supremacist country I can’t quite put my finger on right now.

                  Don’t help me… it’s on the tip of my tongue!

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            And that’s their main problem. You can’t be responsible government if you don’t care about your citizens. You can’t rely on the rest of the world to save your citizens while you continue aggression.

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          Well you could say that with the money Israel is burning for the terrorist action these days it could have found a way to keep its citizens alive… and still here we are.

          These kind of arguments don’t really help do much progress, do they?

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          Yeah… imagine if Jewish people spent their energy appeasing Nazis instead of doing the “Jewish Bolshevism” which forced those poor white supremacists to go on a genocidal rampage - tsk, tsk.

          (/s - for the people on here that aren’t rabid white supremacists like the one I’m responding to)

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      I got temp banned from lemmy.ml for saying that. Basically said “except Ukraine didn’t attack Russia first”, then got the banhammer. A quick Google on their point (cant even remember what it was) and I knew it was bullshit. I blocked lemmy.ml right after

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      I mean… yeah if you count back to the time after Hamas’s creation.

      why do you think Hamas exists at all lol?

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        It doesn’t matter as long as their are not doing what is better for them, or Palestinians. Spoiler: attacking Israel like they did on October 7th was not going to do any good.

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      I take it you think this “war” started when Hamas attacked them this year?

      Israel has been occupying Palestine for decades.

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        Aggression. Aggression that showed Israel’s way of defense can no longer work and that terrorists won’t stop.

        As for the occupation, there is no use in arguing because the bigger issue is logic. It was obvious from the start that this action would not have chances to bring any good end to the situation for Palestinians. No matter what real or fake reasons are, it was foolish. Attacking Israel because of occupation (with weapons like that) is like stabbing yourself with a knife because you have a flu.

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          Oh so only the Israelis are allowed to show aggression? The Palestinians just have to take it in silence?

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            Until they have a chance to actually change anything for good for themselves - yes. Palestinians couldn’t unsteal the lands so October 7th was useless. Israel will be able to prevent terrorists attack for a few years so the ground operation is not useless

            Or, hamas could just surrender and release all hostages to immediately stop what’s happening right now.

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                Deranged an inhuman is to do terrorism, knowing that not only people are going to die, but your people are, too, going to die and suffer as a result. There is zero “protection” or “justice” in these actions and trying to justify them with anything like “but they are occupiers so it’s okay to attack them” is beyond foolish.

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                  Expecting humans to act like robots is quite literally inhuman. They’re pissed off and desperate. That has not not ever in human history resulted in negotiations. This entire line of reasoning is only meant to make Palestinians look like violent savages when the reality is this is how Apartheid and anti colonial struggles have always looked.

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                    Expecting humans to act like robots is quite literally inhuman.

                    Expecting humans to not resort to useless terrorism is nothing like that.

                    They’re pissed off and desperate.

                    Doesn’t mean they can kill anyone and remain unaffected by consequences.

                    That has not not ever in human history resulted in negotiations.

                    I’m not sure I understand this sentence. What is “that”? What is “not not”?

                    This entire line of reasoning is only meant to make Palestinians look like violent savages when the reality is this is how Apartheid and anti colonial struggles have always looked.

                    I’m not even trying to make Plaestinians look bad and I know some of them really want to kill (some did killed) jews in order to become heroes. They are victims of hamas in several ways, but it doesn’t save them. Why? Because Gaza is at war, and, as a war participant, it’s unique in how it doesn’t care about its civilians during a war. Hamas’ only defense is hostages, and Palestinians are not much different from hostages. That’s why there may be a lot of casualties, not because Israel is “a bloody monster” or whatever.

                    I think everyone should drop the whole apartheid/colonialism thing and realize that it can’t be solved with current hamas’ approach. Maybe it could be solved if Gaza cared to make itself a proper country, to become independent, sustainable and responsible. Maybe also abandoning radical religion could help.