cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/88742

The House Judiciary Committee Democrats have released a trove of evidence regarding allegations of sexual assault, including a new rape allegation, against President Donald Trump in relation to Jeffrey Epstein that the lawmakers say has been deliberately covered up by the Department of Justice. The 50-page report, released Monday, contains testimony from 11 women who either accuse Trump of…

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  • LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com
    616·
    12 hours ago

    the same guy who was already convicted of rape

    I absolutely believe he is guilty of rape but Trump has never actually been convicted… yet.

    He was found liable for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carol verdict.

    Hopefully he’ll have rape added to his convictions before hanging for treason.

    • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      6 hours ago

      Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll – The Washington Post, July 19, 2023

      A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

      “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Judge Kaplan wrote.

      He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

      Note: the WaPo article I just quoted is footnoted in the actual Committee report the above Truthout article is about (page 4). Even the Committee report doesn’t mince words. It was rape.

      And that’s what the jury found when it convicted Trump, according to the judge.

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    • baronvonj@piefed.socialEnglish
      26·
      12 hours ago

      I think you’re being pedantic about the wrong word. The judge pretty directly clarified that he was proven guilty of rape. So if you want to be pedantic about the use of “convicted” I think a better phrase to use would be “adjudicated”.

      The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’" Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7?op=1

        • baronvonj@piefed.socialEnglish
          111·
          10 hours ago

          You were being pedantic about convicted vs liable. I was suggest you instead be pedantic about adjudicated vs convicted. I don’t trust people to interpret “liable” in earnest in this context. Saying that he is an adjudicated rapist more directly states a judge [in a court of law] declared that he is guilty of rape [after being presented with evidence and testimony, without incorrectly implying that he was convicted of a criminal charge.

          • Stormy@thelemmy.club
            62·
            10 hours ago

            None of you guys are lawyers or journalists, so you all sound like idiots.

            what do you think he’s going to sue you? He’s a rapist pedophile, stop splitting hairs for a pedophile or his followers. They can get fucked.