It’s hard to have sympathy for Pike, given what she’s done. But at the same time, the state is torturing her at this point, which I’m pretty sure is in violation of her constitutional rights. If she is to be sentenced to death for her crimes, then just put a fucking bullet in her and end her misery already, which is what should have been done in the first place. The lethal injection has always been a cruel, wasteful, and performative procedure and should have been abolished ages ago. It exists not for the safety of the executed, but to protect the feelings of those who have to witness the execution. Fuck that; if you believe that you have the right to end somebody’s life as a punishment for their crimes, then you should have to witness the grim reality of the sentencing you give out. There is so much margin for error with the lethal injection process that an outcome like this was bound to happen eventually - in fact, this isn’t even the first time somebody’s survived a botched injection like this.
I don’t really know where I’m going with all this. This story just has me riled up in a variety of ways lately.
It’s especially bound to happen because it’s basically a medical procedure which is incompatible with being a medical professional. A medical professional would lose their license for performing this procedure, so the only way to do it is by using someone unqualified.
I’m with you, but that is a slow and arduous process that has been fought for years now. In the meantime, until we as a society can wean off of killing our prisoners, we can at least be humane in the way we go about it. The lethal injection is by no means humane.
This is America. The cruelty is the point. It would be easier to get people to go for drawing and quartering people at this point. I mean she requested to be hanged and shot I think.
Eh. I don’t really want to pay for people who torture others to death to hang around in a cage for a few more decades. Just needs to be done instantly and without room for error. And obviously only in completely open and shut cases where there is zero doubt the person committed the crime.
If cost is your concern, it’s cheaper to imprison someone than to pay for the courts and lawyers for the significantly longer legal process to execute someone, not to mention the execution itself.
If cost is your concern, it’s cheaper to imprison someone than to pay for the courts
I’m aware. Which is why I also believe the process needs to be changed. If the person tortured someone to death and the evidence proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt, then the execution should be swift and sure. No appeals. No waiting years on death row. That’ll bring the cost down.
There’s no valid reason why a swift execution following a trial and verdict should cost more than feeding, clothing, and housing someone for decades.
George stinny was a black boy who was accused of murder of a white person in the 1800s (I think) somewhere in the Deep South. He had an all white jury, a useless fucking lawyer and pretty much had everything stacked against him. He was just 14 when he was executed. In the last few years, he was exhonorated.
Anyway, my point is I wouldn’t trust ANY state with making sure someone is ACTUALLY guilty. If there is even a slight chance of someone innocent being executed, it should be abolished. It should be anyway as no one, outside of very few exceptions, like self defence, has the right to take someone else’s life.
It’s hard to have sympathy for Pike, given what she’s done. But at the same time, the state is torturing her at this point, which I’m pretty sure is in violation of her constitutional rights. If she is to be sentenced to death for her crimes, then just put a fucking bullet in her and end her misery already, which is what should have been done in the first place. The lethal injection has always been a cruel, wasteful, and performative procedure and should have been abolished ages ago. It exists not for the safety of the executed, but to protect the feelings of those who have to witness the execution. Fuck that; if you believe that you have the right to end somebody’s life as a punishment for their crimes, then you should have to witness the grim reality of the sentencing you give out. There is so much margin for error with the lethal injection process that an outcome like this was bound to happen eventually - in fact, this isn’t even the first time somebody’s survived a botched injection like this.
I don’t really know where I’m going with all this. This story just has me riled up in a variety of ways lately.
It’s especially bound to happen because it’s basically a medical procedure which is incompatible with being a medical professional. A medical professional would lose their license for performing this procedure, so the only way to do it is by using someone unqualified.
The answer is to abolish the death penalty, not to expedite the process with bullets. What the hell is wrong with you?
I’m with you, but that is a slow and arduous process that has been fought for years now. In the meantime, until we as a society can wean off of killing our prisoners, we can at least be humane in the way we go about it. The lethal injection is by no means humane.
This is America. The cruelty is the point. It would be easier to get people to go for drawing and quartering people at this point. I mean she requested to be hanged and shot I think.
Eh. I don’t really want to pay for people who torture others to death to hang around in a cage for a few more decades. Just needs to be done instantly and without room for error. And obviously only in completely open and shut cases where there is zero doubt the person committed the crime.
If cost is your concern, it’s cheaper to imprison someone than to pay for the courts and lawyers for the significantly longer legal process to execute someone, not to mention the execution itself.
Cost isn’t the real concern, vengeance is.
That’s not an argument against the death penalty in concept though - it could just as easily be taken as an argument for cheaper executions.
So expedite the process and eliminate the appeals process and make the whole thing an even bigger human rights atrocity?
The solution is to not kill people. This isn’t a hard concept for mentally healthy people without bloodlust.
I’m aware. Which is why I also believe the process needs to be changed. If the person tortured someone to death and the evidence proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt, then the execution should be swift and sure. No appeals. No waiting years on death row. That’ll bring the cost down.
There’s no valid reason why a swift execution following a trial and verdict should cost more than feeding, clothing, and housing someone for decades.
That’s a real big if. I don’t trust states like Texas or Mississippi with that power.
George stinny was a black boy who was accused of murder of a white person in the 1800s (I think) somewhere in the Deep South. He had an all white jury, a useless fucking lawyer and pretty much had everything stacked against him. He was just 14 when he was executed. In the last few years, he was exhonorated.
Anyway, my point is I wouldn’t trust ANY state with making sure someone is ACTUALLY guilty. If there is even a slight chance of someone innocent being executed, it should be abolished. It should be anyway as no one, outside of very few exceptions, like self defence, has the right to take someone else’s life.