A lot of places are doing that, but they’re making the stupid decision to keep DST all year, which means that solar noon is at 1pm.
Just keep it the same all year. Keep solar noon at 12pm. If you think it’s dangerous for kids to be catching the bus in the dark in winter, start school 1 hour later. If that means parents might need to stay home longer to see their kids off to school, start work later.
This isn’t rocket surgery. Adjust the work and school schedule, not the clock.
It doesnt make any sense to keep DST permanent there’s no pluses.
a) It will be still dark at 7am for large chunks of the year this sucks.
b)You get one final shitty spring forwards, but lose out of the pleasure of one last fall back.
Sorry if i wasn’t very clear when I was kind of rapidly typing. To elaborate even by late October it’s still dark by like 7 And that’s with daylight savings time still in effect. If daylight savings time were still in effect in the winter, then by late December The sun wouldn’t be up until nine o’clock. That sucks
Seven in particular is a touchstone because that’s when a lot of people are up going to or getting ready for work and it’s when kids are often going to school and waiting for the bus.
Sure, there are places in more northern latitudes that have to deal with these compromises, but it’s a silly compromise to make when it’s artificially made.
Better to let end daylight savings one final time and leave it ended
The sun wouldn’t be up until nine o’clock. That sucks
Why? What does nine o’clock matter? Does it bother you that right now it’s 3pm in Beijing but it’s the middle of the night in North America?
The numbers on a clock are just numbers on a clock. It doesn’t suck any less if it’s dark at 4am or 7am or 10am.
Seven in particular is a touchstone because that’s when a lot of people are up going to or getting ready for work
There’s no reason that can’t change. If you don’t like being up at 7am when it’s dark, then change the time you start work.
and it’s when kids are often going to school and waiting for the bus.
There’s no reason kids have to go to school at 7am. Kids could go to school at 9am. There’s nothing sacred about the current schedule.
but it’s a silly compromise to make when it’s artificially made.
Yes, I completely agree. This arbitrary school start time of 8am or 8:30 or 9am or whatever it is where you live is artificially made, and can be changed. There’s no reason to keep that arbitrary time and instead change the clocks so that time occurs when it’s light outside.
I care when solar noon is. You should too. What does solar noon have to do with getting out of work with sunlight? If that matters to you, make it a demand when you get a job.
No, I mean yes, but let’s do that in the picture first!
“AI revolutionizes the way we work so that a lot of people get kicked out of their jobs.”
Hey, if we can do most of the work without the people even working, why the hell am I doing overtime here? Why is anyone? Let the machine do the hard work, I’ll enjoy life meanwhile.
Yeah, definitely that as well. Although I think “let’s not do daylight savings swaps anymore” is going to be a much easier fight since there is no powerful vested interest in keeping it…
Can we just pick one time and stick to it instead of swapping twice a year?
A lot of places are doing that, but they’re making the stupid decision to keep DST all year, which means that solar noon is at 1pm.
Just keep it the same all year. Keep solar noon at 12pm. If you think it’s dangerous for kids to be catching the bus in the dark in winter, start school 1 hour later. If that means parents might need to stay home longer to see their kids off to school, start work later.
This isn’t rocket surgery. Adjust the work and school schedule, not the clock.
It doesnt make any sense to keep DST permanent there’s no pluses.
a) It will be still dark at 7am for large chunks of the year this sucks. b)You get one final shitty spring forwards, but lose out of the pleasure of one last fall back.
Why? Is there something special about “7am”?
Sorry if i wasn’t very clear when I was kind of rapidly typing. To elaborate even by late October it’s still dark by like 7 And that’s with daylight savings time still in effect. If daylight savings time were still in effect in the winter, then by late December The sun wouldn’t be up until nine o’clock. That sucks
Seven in particular is a touchstone because that’s when a lot of people are up going to or getting ready for work and it’s when kids are often going to school and waiting for the bus.
Sure, there are places in more northern latitudes that have to deal with these compromises, but it’s a silly compromise to make when it’s artificially made.
Better to let end daylight savings one final time and leave it ended
Why? What does nine o’clock matter? Does it bother you that right now it’s 3pm in Beijing but it’s the middle of the night in North America?
The numbers on a clock are just numbers on a clock. It doesn’t suck any less if it’s dark at 4am or 7am or 10am.
There’s no reason that can’t change. If you don’t like being up at 7am when it’s dark, then change the time you start work.
There’s no reason kids have to go to school at 7am. Kids could go to school at 9am. There’s nothing sacred about the current schedule.
Yes, I completely agree. This arbitrary school start time of 8am or 8:30 or 9am or whatever it is where you live is artificially made, and can be changed. There’s no reason to keep that arbitrary time and instead change the clocks so that time occurs when it’s light outside.
DST sucks because you have to go to school when it’s dark and leave school when it’s dark
Who cares when solar noon is? Id like to get out of work with any amount of sunlight.
I care when solar noon is. You should too. What does solar noon have to do with getting out of work with sunlight? If that matters to you, make it a demand when you get a job.
Yeah, that’s stupid but still a step up from swapping.
No, I mean yes, but let’s do that in the picture first!
“AI revolutionizes the way we work so that a lot of people get kicked out of their jobs.”
Hey, if we can do most of the work without the people even working, why the hell am I doing overtime here? Why is anyone? Let the machine do the hard work, I’ll enjoy life meanwhile.
AND DAYLIGHT, FFS!
Yeah, definitely that as well. Although I think “let’s not do daylight savings swaps anymore” is going to be a much easier fight since there is no powerful vested interest in keeping it…