• Guy Dudeman@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    So… here my whole thing… these “anarchists” you’re talking about just… don’t exist. This is a strawman, meant to make tankies continue to feel superior to everyone else. Punching “down” so to speak. I don’t get it. The left SHOULD be about cooperation. The left SHOULD be about well-being for all. But tankies don’t seem to give a shit about that. They just want to punch “down”. That’s all I ever see from tankies. I never see them out helping anyone. I never see them doing anything but being terminally online in their enclaves and sending pig poop pics to people and banning people from their enclaves for actually trying to have a serious conversation. That’s literally, like, it.

    • HowdyLemmy@lemmy.zip
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      1 hour ago

      So… here my whole thing… this “Linux” you’re talking about just… don’t exist. This is a strawman, meant to make users continue to feel superior to GNU+Linux users. Punching “down” so to speak. I don’t get it. Linux SHOULD be about cooperation. Linux SHOULD be about well-being for all. But users don’t seem to give a shit about that. They just want to punch “down”. That’s all I ever see from users. I never see them out helping anyone. I never see them doing anything but being terminally online in their enclaves and sending pig poop pics to people and banning people from their enclaves for actually trying to have a serious conversation. That’s literally, like, it.

      • jdr@lemmy.ml
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        13 minutes ago

        I mean… you’re on Lemmy.

        If you didn’t want tankies you’re in the wrong shitshow.

        • Zorque@lemmy.world
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          1 hour ago

          You can use whatever scary term you want for the phantoms who you hold responsible for all the problems in your life.

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        3 hours ago

        Please - enlighten me! :) (or are you gonna say “it’s not my job to educate you!”?? lol)

        • Ecco the dolphin@lemmy.ml
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          I’m just a passerby, and I’m not going to do any reading lists or arguments or whatever I’m just going to point something out.

          There’s someone in this thread who said this (I have no desire to throw shade at this person, we’d probably be best friends IRL):

          It becomes easier when humans don’t have the toil of physically moving the packages. My husband would build and program the robots right now if I let him. (Too afraid that he’ll overthrow society before the 4 thieves vinegar collective publishes the recipes for the medications that I need to survive)

          And I struggle to understand where the microchips will come from. I’d love to live in a world where a global supply chain arises that allows precision manufacturing in an anarchist way. I also wish pokemon were real and ethically possible.

          That’s what this meme is about. Anarchist robots. Honestly I think typing this is probably a waste of time, just kind of an explanation of a joke that some people are trying to not understand.

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            50 minutes ago

            I think the misunderstanding comes from conflating anarchism with anarchy. It’s the systems of control, coercion and hierarchies that people would do away with, not knowledge, machinery or the ability to organise things.

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              44 minutes ago

              I totally get that, but I struggle to imagine a community choosing to (destructively, there’s few ways to do it) mine their nearby environment for rare metals so some other community can ship it to another community that has a massive cleanroom industrial floor in a horizontal hierarchy. It doesn’t seem achievable, and I am someone who has organized my own local folks for collective purposes.

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                I agree that it’s hard to imagine. To me, it’s more of a true north than something that could be achieved in the next 100 years. It’s more of a save yourself thing anyway. No ones coming to save us.

                People do kind things for each other. Exchange can still exist and people will have a lot more time of their hands to help their neighbours, near and far, if they’re not being exploited all day. Things will have to be done and not everyone will want to farm their own food.

                No one’s going to see it if they’re looking for it through the lenses of our current system in the same way people a few hundred years ago wouldn’t be able to imagine large scale building projects without an army of slaves.

    • Zer0_7092@lemmy.zipB
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      4 hours ago

      Unbridled evil is when the joke is obvious

      Live a little, without humor you miss out on a lot in life