An attempted carjacking Saturday night left a 13-year-old dead after a security officer shot him; another boy, 12, is in custody
An attempted carjacking Saturday night left a 13-year-old dead after a security officer shot him; another boy, 12, is in custody
The worst part of this is that a security guard (not even a police officer) shot and killed a 13 year old child for attempting to steal a car. No one’s life is worth more than some vehicle
They approached from both sides of the car with their hand on their waistbands as if they had a weapon. Was he supposed to magic his way out of that? Talk to them? Plead?
He had a gun. They threatened a person with a gun. This is what happens sometimes when you do that. It’s the risk you assume when you take up carjacking. It’s a high-risk occupation.
Carjacking is not punishable by summary execution.
Maybe don’t carjack anyone and put yourself in a position where someone feels threatened enough to do this? By the other article linked, this kid went on a little crime spree and fucked around enough to find out. Sucks for his family, but this was inevitable.
They were 12 and 13. “Fuck around and find out” they’re children. Get some fucking empathy
Children doing very adult crimes.
We’re all children. I don’t give a damn how old they were, they fucked around and found out and now they have to face the consequences. Your age, your race, and other things don’t excuse you of the crimes you committed, or attempted to commit.
Thanks captain obvious.
“Just stop it or die” isn’t a rally cry I can get behind.
Kid needed help, not a bullet.
He decided to trick someone into believing he’s a mortal threat. Victims shouldn’t have to risk their life because you don’t like the result. It’s a tragic outcome, but it’s a story he wrote.
I hope we can all agree he needed help rather than a bullet.
I would agree unless the carjacker appears to have a gun. Like its not great a 13 year old died but with how weapons are designed. Its quite easy for a 13 year old to end a life (intentionally or not) if armed.
Please take a moment.
A 13 year old without a gun was shot dead by an off duty US Marshal.
Now please consider what you just said, while acknowledging the context.
Please take a moment.
A detective testified that surveillance video showed the two suspects going to the car as they both put their hands on their waistbands, as if to indicate they both had a weapon.
Now please consider what you just said, while acknowledging the context.
On a more serious note, are you implying cops have futuresight? I sure hope that is what you are implying. Since you have to be a fool to take a fucking threat lightly no matter the age of the individual who is perpetrating it. I’m sorry but a 5 year with a fucking gun can kill someone, sure as hell a 13 year old implying they have a gun who is trying to car jack someone may be seen as a credible threat. its unfortunate that this young man didn’t find a way to be a productive member of society and with his death he will never find that. We can’t lose sight that if you bring/suggest you brought a deadly weapon into a situation you have forfeited your right to life (you can’t infringe on another person’s right to life and expect no pushback for it) until you are disarmed and immobilized. You may take this as pro cop talking points but no this is being a fucking realist, it can happen to anyone at anytime.
Cops should be held to some of the highest standards. They are in theory the enforcers of the law and the public would lose trust if that gets abused. That is why we are currently in the situation we are in right now. Cops are being recorded and rightfully so. The justice system already favors cops. So I’m 100% down for being skeptical of cops but in this case I’m sorry you are way out of line.
As people say: FAFO.
Dude, stop trying to justify violent crime.
It appears you are incorrect
Sadly.
Threatening a persons life is though
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It would seem the gun lovin’ boot lickin’ rootin tootin reddit fuckwads have well and truly moved in to Lemmy, if your up and down vote counts are anything to go by.
No one’s car is worth more than a human life.
Carjackers (especially young carjackers) kill cooperating victims on the regular around here. My car isn’t worth a human life, but my car isn’t what’s being threatened in a carjacking.
Its a bit funny since isn’t a large following for lemmy in the super super far left end of it to the ends of communism and Karl Marx states
― Karl Marx
So you are trying to label your opposition as “redditors”. Your human life is being threaten, not your car you numbnuts
Your own life and safety is worth shooting and killing someone over, you don’t know what someone’s intentions are when they approach you.
Also, just let them take your stuff? Fuck you. Do you think I have the money to just go and buy a new car at the drop of a hat?
it looked like it was a US marshal. it doesn’t justify a life, but i would be hard pressed to find a marshal that would react differently to an attempted car jacking.
Actual law enforcement need to he prohibited from moonlighting as security guards.
Nothing good ever comes of it.
They just get a taste for doing what they consider to be their day job without official oversight.
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“Security guard” = US Marshall
“13 year old” = person on a crime spree who had a loaded firearm (deadly weapon)
“Steal a car” = steal a car with the US Marshall still inside, most likely while threatening them with previously mentioned firearm.
This person is the one who put the value of a car above a human life. If someone is willing to put a gun in my face for the sake of personal gain, I see no way how defending myself, even with deadly force, would be not justified.
Carjacking ≠ car theft
Imagine youre sitting on the toilet taking a shit and I kick the door down and throw you to the ground and start overflowing your porcelain throne with gallons of sticky, oily poo juice.
It’s a tad worse than me breaking in and just taking your toilet back to my place and having my way with it there.
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For me that’s the best part, guess we’ll agree to disagree!