Yeah, because there will be a nether portal and lava everywhere.
In Germany the streets are far too often a fight for survival. I miss the Netherlands, driving there, bike or car, was so much more relaxing.
But, you know, Germans and their cars…
as a car driver, i have no problems with bike drivers themselves. i hate whoever thought 1 lane and a thin sidewalk was enough road.
Gets you to slow down and pay attention to your surroundings, doesn’t it? That’s the point, if you build roads that feel cramped to drivers they’ll naturally drive slower (i.e. actually the speed limit). Building all streets like they’re highways is a good way to get people going 50-60 mph on roads with houses directly on them.
So, there’s a balance. If you don’t build enough room to do anything but drive slow to be safe, the moment someone is fast, the chances of a crash are very high.
If you build a road that has too much clearance, you end up with people driving faster, which is okay because there’s more room for people to be out of the way, likely reducing the amount of crashes. The drawback to this is, if people drive faster, the fewer crashes that do occur are at higher speeds, which are more deadly.
So the ratio of number of crashes to severity of crashes is what the end result is.
Granted, I live in the US where single lane country back-roads will have people in trucks going down at 50MPH randomly, so I don’t know if Europeans drive more cautiously. I know their driving tests are more comprehensive for sure.
it’s also a great way to put people’s lives at risk. i don’t think anyone thought of what you’re describing.
No, that’s explicitly the reason for it, and it’s been shown to reduce the severity of crashes because people drive the speed limit when they feel it’s risky to go faster.
so swerving into oncoming traffic is safe? i had numerous near crashes because people overtook a bike driver coming my way. the netherlands do it better, the bikes have their own separated lane.
Your feelings do not match actual reality.
11:17 is the timestamp that is most relevant here, separated bike paths should be the norm. and not the shitty “fahrradschutzsstreifen” bullshit they are pulling in germany. i have to swerve around people going not even 20km/h when i’m going 50. there’s no way that reduces accidents. the netherlands rock. i went on a vacation there a few years ago. public transport is so much better there. (key phrase “viable alternative”)
Oh is that a German thing? I thought it was just my Opa
My gramps used to think even looking at his cars was asking permission to drive or touch them. “Nein!”
He was gregarious at all other times, but “don’t go in my fucking garage”
In Europe you don’t need countries for this. The smallest federal country will have a clear difference on the road at the border of two federated entities. Worst, it can happen between municipalities in some countries.
Looks like a protected chunk in Minecraft.
Yes, the country where you see on Monday who is going to visit you on Tuesday and where the highest hills are the dikes
I don’t see who any of this is a bad thing.
It isn’t, the only bad thing of the Netherland are the drivers with caravans on the motorways and roads in the rest of the EU, ah, well, maybe their beer 🤢
Does our beer have a bad reputation?
Only insofar as Heineken is associated with Netherlands.
It’s a laughing stock here in Belgium
There’s no competing with Belgian beer, but I genuinely enjoy a Grolsch or Hertog Jan. There’s also quite a few great local breweries.
Our pilsners are so so but we have some seriously good craft beer Brewers now!
This feels like Hertog Jan slander.
Hahaha no not at all, I do love me a HJ’tje when I’m in a beery mood, though usually I just get Klok instead 😂
Truly a man of culture.
Well, maybe, anyway the French beer is way worse. Best beers you find in Czechoslovakia, Germany and also in Spain
I know that place. The borders between the Ellestraat (Hulst, NL) and the Hellestraat (Stekene, BE).
The right side of the street on the Belgian part is actually Dutch for a few 100 meters. If you look around on street view the part with a bicycle lane is Belgian, the part without it is Dutch.
I knew that was a Belgian road, you can tell by all the cracks.
Ah, Stekene. Where are the days I just went to Crammerock to smoke weed on the camping. I saw Gorki there the year Luc De Vos died.
the part without
The red lanes are the bicycle lanes.
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Why can’t we have this with Canada and Mexico?
Because America is in-between
/s
Actually if you leave Quebec towards Vermont, the pavement changes significantly and becomes pink-ish.
When you leave Quebec towards Ontario, the road is significantly less bumpy.
Depends where lol, but it’s true in general.
When you leave Ontario for Quebec, the road signs become incomprehensible.
To be fair both the US and EU are a federation of states (the latter sharing aspects of a confederation as well 1. In the US all state borders do look like this, so in a way free travel among the ‘independent’ states is allowed the same as in the posters picture.
Imagine half your backyard being in another country. Do you think they still mow it?
Wait til you find out about Baarle
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Notice the markings on the road make sure you don’t cross the border any faster than 09 kmph
Pssh, we have that all over the US, big deal
Knowing where the Netherlands begins?
Dutch bicycle lanes? And here I thought the US was car junkie hell.
The US is giant. Some places have better bike infrastructure than others but it’s surely not the standard
No, bad bike infrastructure is the standard.
Might want to add the /s lol
I mean… we have interstate travel and the US is massive. There are no real borders between states.
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Except for the similarities between both places having open borders… something explicitly mentioned in the post…
This post isn’t about open borders, it’s about the contrast in bicycle and road infrastructure between the Netherlands and other countries. The open border was just the setup.
The Netherlands has very specific urban/rural (re)design standards which are quite recognizable if you know them.
Oh do they? That’s interesting, do they have standardized bikes lanes everywhere?
Well, yeah. There are guidelines for new infrastructure, but that doesn’t mean everything is up to date everywhere. There are roads that haven’t been resurfaced for quite a while that aren’t up to date. But on the whole it is very similar everywhere.
It’s only a small country though.
There is a Canadian YouTuber who lives in Amsterdam who makes videos about it: http://YouTube.com/notjustbikes I’ve lived here all my life so it’s nice to get an outside perspective on this all.
Thanks for contributing information about your underrepresented country
You are most welcome.
(guys they mean the sudden changes in road quality)
The US probably has some rural bike paths, but I sure as shit haven’t seen any.
