“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.

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    Taking from my comment on the other community where you posted this:

    Biden asked for one and reported Netanyahu said no.

    The headline sounds like he’s just dismissing his staffers

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      “Ok then stop sending bombs and using reaper drones to help them perform mass killings”

      “No can do chief, Bibi told me I need to keep doing all that.”

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      Considering the power that the US has over Israel, he pretty much is just dismissing his staffers.

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      That makes me feel better, but I wish he would put some weight behind it.

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      Even if IDF stops shooting, what really makes people believe Hamas will stop? I want an end to the violence as much as anyone else but I really don’t see a cease fire doing anything but giving Hamas time to rearm and plan their next massacre.

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    To be fair, i don’t think Israel is going to do a cease fire even if we yeet all the aid and support we promised them. Netty has been wanting this fight for… ages.

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        In all honesty, if this wasn’t serving as a proxy war that might have been possible, but I think with China, Iran, and Russia squaring up to support Palestine there’s no way we’re going to cut off Israel. From a big picture perspective Israel is the only real ally the US or western powers have in the middle east and even if we dumped them for the crimes they commit it would ultimately hurt the US and western powers to abandon or sanction them.

        I saw an article saying that Belgium is considering sanctions against Israel, but Belgium is also a NATO country and only has 24k active troops with an additional 6k in reserves. In 2022 Belgium had the third lowest % GDP military investment out of the NATO countries.

        Whether we like it or not the big players in the game aren’t looking at the atrocities Israel commits in Gaza, they’re looking at whether they will have a foothold and ally in the middle east if we have a World War.

        We as individuals can take a stance on the conflict without considering the geopolitical outcomes, but to be able to do so we should admit that we are in a place of privilege. I imagine that if news came out that Ukraine blew up a school Poland still would still support Ukraine, because they’re right next door.

        At the same time, countries which don’t meaningfully contribute to their own defense should recognize their privilege when it comes to the world stage.

        EDIT: Had accidentally called Ukraine Russia, fixed now.

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      Well, if we yeet all the aid we send them, at least we won’t be facilitating a genocide in as many ways.

      That’s a start and a step worth taking.

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        Keep in mind, part of the reason we’ve given all this aid to Israel, historically, is precisely for that leverage it gives us.

        People are rolling in their graves that we’re not using it.

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      And even if he didn’t want the fight, a ceasefire now would destroy his coalition, being down the government , remove him from power, and probably end up with him personally in prison from the outstanding corruption allegations

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    This was reported for having a misleading headline, however the headline on the post is the exact same as the headline on the article.

    I agree, the headline makes it sound like Biden was addressing the “500+ former staffers” when he was not, that’s an issue to take up with commondreams.org.

    If OP had editorialized the headline in a misleading fashion, I’d remove it. In this case they are accurately passing along the headline from the article.

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      That doesn’t mean you can’t remove the post because the article headline is misleading, it’s just that the blame lies on the site rather than OP.

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        Our policy is that the headline must match that of the article, so any problem with the headline should be directed at the people writing it.

        Leaving the post drives the discussion of how and why the headline is misleading, which is in and of itself a valuable conversation.

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    In just over a month, Israeli bombing has killed nearly 11,000 people in Gaza and displaced more than 70% of the territory’s population.

    Jesus wept.

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      They want land. Land that is currently occupied by someone else.

      It’s how their “settlements” have been established and expanded for decades.

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    Imperialists thinking they can puppeteer another imperialist. Maybe they’re right who knows.

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    Damn looks like there is ‘No Possibility’ that I will be voting for that cuck ever again.

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      His opponent will end the war in 24 hours! But you probably won’t like how he ends it…

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        God help me, I watched part of the GOP debate the other night, when asked what they would tell Netanyahu, they were all super eager to gove some variation of, “finish the job” neglecting to clarify if they meant Hamas or Palestine. I’m surprised none of them slipped and suggested a final solution. Sorry, but if you don’t like Biden, you really aren’t gonna like these folks take on it.

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      He talked to Netanyahu, Netanyahu refused a cease-fire. What specifically do you think he should be doing?

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        About the genocide? The most you’re willing to demand from you government is that they ask their client state to stop doing genocide? Sanctions, pull all aid, condemnations, anything. They’re slaughtering civillians by the thousands.

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            We give them billions of dollars per year in cash and weapons. This blood is on our hands because American taxpayers are funding every bomb. Also “unilaterally” just wouldn’t be true. The overwhelming majority of the international community would also like the genocide to stop.

            I think you should deeply reflect on how evil your last sentence reads considering the circumstances.

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    Remember this blood is on the hands of anyone who voted for him and would vote for him again.

    Genocide is Biden’s legacy, hope it was worth saving “democracy”.

    Your downvotes are a witness against you and do not absolve you of your guilt.

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      Sorry to disappoint you, but if the president was Trump or any other Republican your government would have been even firmer behind Israel, so it is a choice between a bad and a worse president.

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        Hell we would probably have deployed troops to Gaza and also to stand by in case of actions from Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, or Syria.

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          Nope. Cold hard truth to your fucking pathetic attempt at putting Netty’s bloodthirst on Biden. You are beyond pathetic and frankly beyond stupid.

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        But you voted for the guy who has been friends, worked with, and politically supported a Right-wing, ethnonationalist for over 40 years.

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      Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.

      On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.

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        Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.

        No, he’s just the one supporting funding and arming Israel no matter what they do for decades and voting for him continued to enable Israel which inevitably led to this moment we’re at now.

        On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.

        Whataboutism.

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      Not voting for him again directly enables a guy that would do so much worse. Your stance lacks any understanding of the limits to our voting system.

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        How could it be worse than genocide for Palestinians?