Microsoft has hired OpenAI co-founders Sam Altman and Greg Brockman to head up a "new advanced AI research team," the software conglomerate's chief Satya Sam Altman and Greg Brockman and many of their former OpenAI colleagues will join Microsoft, Satya Nadella said.
    • Jay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      27·
      10 months ago

      He was fired due to some discrepancy. Nadella said directly that he didn’t like it. And when he can’t use his 49% to bring Altman back, he hires him himself.

      Without sarcasm: that makes total sense to me.

  • silencioso@lemmy.worldEnglish
    621·
    10 months ago

    So Microsoft is going to compete with themselves? (Microsoft owns 49% of openai)

    • ButtDrugs@lemm.eeEnglish
      194·
      10 months ago

      Sam probably still controls a ton of shares, so I think effectively this would give them >50% of shares as long as they are partnering.

          • silencioso@lemmy.worldEnglish
            46·
            10 months ago

            Not really if you have to divide resources between two. Computing necessary for training these models is not cheap and there is an obvious opportunity cost here.

            • Pons_Aelius@kbin.social
              52·
              10 months ago

              MS has more than enough cash and resources to back two horses.

              Computing necessary for training this models is not cheap and there is an obvious opportunity cost here.

              This also gives them the luxury of trying a different approach.

              • silencioso@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                10 months ago

                Time will tell my guess is that Microsoft will sale its stake in openai or just drain openai from resources and people until it will disappear.

            • NounsAndWords@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              I have no idea what MS is doing with AI internally, but predictive text is only one of the avenues towards AGI which sure seems to be the direction OpenAI (and everyone else currently looking to sell a product) are going. There are certainly other directions MS can go in the same field without putting all their eggs in one basket.

      • Melt@lemm.eeEnglish
        81·
        10 months ago

        If OpenAI wanted to sell out, they wouldn’t have fired Altman

      • ramble81@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        They’re only 2% short of being able to do that. I think Microsoft has a 49% stake.

        • SuperDuper@lemmy.worldEnglish
          71·
          10 months ago

          Sam has to own at least a percent or two. Even if he doesn’t bring enough shares to the table to give Microsoft the edge they need, I’m guessing he’s friendly enough with a few shareholders to get them the rest of the way.

            • SuperDuper@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              Huh, that’s interesting. But I still assume he must have a good enough relationship with enough investors to convince at least 2% of shareholders to back Microsoft if they were partnering with him on a resolution.

      • httpjames@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        As much as I’d love to see them back in OpenAI, I don’t think Emmett Shear will give up.

        I have a soft spot for Greg since he was the one who introduced the world to GPT 4 on that developer livestream

      • gnutrino@programming.devEnglish
        71·
        10 months ago

        That’s got to be the lowest effort generic name in existence. “Ah just shift one of the letters to the start and let’s knock off early”

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        Just like cereal companies with name brands like fruit loops will make fruit spins. Why not take profit on the lower end of the market?

        • TheGreenGolem@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          And there are many other examples too.

          A lot of car manufacturers have brands for the upper class. Like Mercedes -> Maybach, Toyota -> Lexus, Seat -> Cupra. And tyre manufacturers have lower-end brands, like Michelin -> Kleber. Or, even better: a lot of store budget brands for milk, cheese, sausages etc. are manufactured by a big name brand, it’s right on the packaging with the little letters at the bottom. (Manufactured by: XYZ Big Name Brand Ltd.)

          • ChrisLicht@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            I had a teacher in high school, many decades ago, who had owned an orange juice processor. He explained that the generic store brand got the start and end of production runs; name brand got the middle.

            • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zipEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              Orange juice in particular is a very brand loyalty specific one because oranges naturally do not have a consistent flavor. The main distinguishing flavor between different brands is an additive each brand puts in to make it taste more like their brand of orange juice.

    • higgs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      40·
      10 months ago

      Pretty sure Sam and Greg got A LOT of money to get „convinced“ to start at Microsoft

      • PancakeLegend@kbin.social
        231·
        10 months ago

        Even if you start dreaming up ludicrous salaries/options, the cost to hire them would be only a fraction of the hit Microsoft would take in the market if not for this play. Satya could comfortably let them name their price and say yes to anything.

        This hand was played well by Satya.

        • JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          76·
          10 months ago

          Yep, Google is paying the price of having bard being a late comer and Facebook is scrambling to pivot from VR to AI. Everyone is now in this text prediction business and it looks like the bubble will explode even faster than NFTs

          • paf0@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            Bard is improving very quickly. It’s quicker to respond and gives a better response than ChatGPT a lot of the time. This drama will mean serious trouble for OpenAI.

          • Wooki@lemmy.worldEnglish
            23·
            10 months ago

            Let me know when we get there. We are far from it yet. I will more than likely measure the burst when it’s removed from MS Office and MS stops making their own chips…But for now it’s full steam ahead into MS NFT’s

      • Lauchs@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        Truth. Though, OpenAI was valued around 80 billion, I’d be reasonably surprised if either of them was being offered a billion.

        • higgs@lemmy.worldEnglish
          314·
          10 months ago

          I have the feeling that Microsoft will acquire OpenAI at some point. It just makes sense. OpenAI is nothing without Altmans vision.

    • TurtleJoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      211·
      10 months ago

      This guy is a former (and current) crypto bro who just pivoted to the next tech buzzword. This shit was never gonna be a benefit to humanity.

      • some_designer_dude@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Yeah, that’s some next level naïveté thinking Silicon Valley gives any fucks about anything other than number-go-up. Yikes.

        The advent of AI feels more like the beginning of what will probably end in revolution… The bloody kind. They’re going to replace as many humans as they possibly can until the masses get hungry enough to finally eat the rich.

  • aeronmelon@lemm.eeEnglish
    2914·
    10 months ago

    Microsoft slept on phones and tablets, they are not sleeping on AI. And good! Software has always been Microsoft’s superpower.

    gets the popcorn

  • Clbull@lemmy.worldEnglish
    197·
    10 months ago

    OpenAI shot themselves in the legs with a 12-gauge shotgun when they fired Sam Altman and Greg Brockman.

    Expect Microsoft Copilot to eclipse ChatGPT.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    8·
    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Microsoft has hired OpenAI co-founders Sam Altman and Greg Brockman to head up a “new advanced AI research team,” the software conglomerate’s chief Satya Nadella said Monday, capping three days of intense discussions following the unexpected decision by OpenAI’s board to dismiss Altman.

    Nadella said Altman and Brockman will be joined by “colleagues,” suggesting that Microsoft is also hiring many other people who left OpenAI over the weekend.

    “We look forward to moving quickly to provide them with the resources needed for their success,” said Nadella, in what many tech entrepreneurs labelled as an example of “incredible execution.”

    Nadella, whose firm has invested over $10 billion in OpenAI and acquired almost 50% ownership, said the Windows-maker remains committed to the startup.

    The decision comes after a tumultuous weekend that saw Altman removed from his role at OpenAI by the organization’s board on Friday.

    “The board had a chance to explain their drastic actions and they did not take it,” wrote Andrej Karpathy, a research scientist at OpenAI, on X.

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  • DessertStorms@kbin.social
    1327·
    10 months ago

    Good to know Microsoft has no qualms with hiring someone being accused of raping their own sister…

    Capitalism - no morals, only profit!

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
        1051·
        10 months ago

        They are, yet less than 2% of accusations are actually false, so piss off with the “only accusations” bullshit as if it isn’t at least a massive red banner of a flag.

      • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
        182·
        10 months ago

        Regarding the alleged rape, in short: The sexual acts are not even explicitly stated and allegedly occurred when she was young enough to barely be able to remember or understand anything, she went decades without saying a word to anyone about it. Then they have a dispute over an inheritance, and a couple of years later when he becomes famous she publicly accuses him, without providing evidence or reporting him to the courts.

        • kirklennon@kbin.social
          41·
          10 months ago

          I have not read her accusations but I don’t think your criticism is really valid.

          You can’t publicly accuse someone if neither of you is a public figure. It just doesn’t work that way. You need a platform that comes after at least one of the parties is famous.

          Also, testimony from the victim is evidence. In the case of old sexual assault cases, it’s quite often the only evidence. But if all you have is fuzzy memories from decades ago, you know that’s not going to get you anywhere in court so why would you even attempt a legal claim?

          The fact that an ostensible child sexual assault victim does not have additional evidence, or does not file a police report or civil suit, shouldn’t be used to discount their claims.

          • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
            2·
            10 months ago

            …? In my comment I literally said that she did it when he became famous.

            The testimony of the accusers is not evidence, it can be evidence. To be so, it must be supported by sufficient circumstantial evidence to convince the courts.

            It is true that reporting old cases is difficult, but it is often done successfully, and is the only way to obtain true justice. That someone is willing to go through the pain of public exposure but won’t even try it in court doesn’t prove anything, but it is very suspicious.
            Especially if doing so publicly not only fails to state evidence or claim to have evidence, but doesn’t even make the accusations explicit; it looks like an attempt to avoid being sued.

            It is not that I wish to discredit her pseudo-statements, but it is important that people understand how little there is, because every time his name appears on the internet there is a tough campaign of harassment by people who just parrot it.