Google Chrome will limit ad blockers starting June 2024::The “Manifest V3” rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.

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      I must admit I ditched Firefox for a while when it was considerably slower than Chrome.

      feelsbadman.

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          Rockmelt is a fork of Chromium, not a fork of Chrome. Same with Maxthon. Both Chromium and Chrome are maintained by Google, but Chromium is open-sourced while Chrome is not.

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              Agreed. I didn’t mean to imply chromium is a good thing, which is why I said it is maintained by Google. Lots of browsers are forks of Chromium, even Microsoft Edge, but I thought they were implying these browsers were illegal forks hacked from Chrome, so I looked them up and found they’re just more chromium forks.

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        I’m ashamed to say I did the same and even converted quite a few non-tech savvy people as well. :(

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        The trick is to never let your smugness show, then you can be smug about your humility as well. *sniff* Ahhhh…

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      Same as reddit to lemmy story for me. Moving mobile browser from kiwi(chrome fork) to Firefox nightly. Already a Firefox user in pc.

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      I wish it was for me, but Chrome is necessary for some work I do.

      Edit: very weird I get so many downvotes because I need to use a specific browser. Get out more, please.

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          I was doing some work on the social security site and the site i needed wouldn’t even load unless it was chrome or edge. There are sadly too many important website that are somehow allowed to gatekeep browsers. I feel like if their site follows guidelines then there’s no reason they should be restricted from browsers, but here we are.

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          Platforms I use don’t work reliably with other browsers, online teaching ones to be specific.

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            Ah, that’s a tough one.

            I needed to install Ungoogled Chromium to join lectures, because the remote learning site refused to work in Firefox (wouldn’t be surprised if it was developed against a chrome-specific API)

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            Most of the time the site doesn’t really need chrome, it’s just that’s all they test it with, so they say it’s a requirement.

            There’s an addon for Firefox called User-Agent Switcher and Manager that allows you to have Firefox identify itself to websites as chrome (among others), and it often fixes the problem.

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              I work in IT so I am aware of this. Maybe you’ve not worked in enough places that just build incompatible (cr)apps?

              And sure, just go outside our locked down machine policies and install Firefox and unapproved extensions. That will do down well.

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                Yeah, “most” was probably a bit hyperbolic, especially for internal websites, and I guess it’s no surprise that the sectors you mentioned would be particularly bad for it.

                The best place for my little PSA probably wasn’t in response to your post in particular.

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                  Sorry I’m snippy as I have personal stuff going on. You are right in so far as if you have full control of your machine which isn’t the case for the orgs I mentioned.

                  We can pull FF into our dev environment so I’ve seen these annoying behaviours.

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        Edit: …

        Yeah, I get “Google bad”, and agree, and am 100% on the Firefox train, but downvoting people for not using FF is kinda stinky.

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      I’ve tried switching so many times, most recently yesterday. Every time something just doesnt work or is missing. Yesterday it was stremios web client that refused to show the video that I was simultaneously watching in chrome.

      And the fact that Firefox doesnt do tab groups. Such a convenient feature for me, and I couldnt find an extension that did the job. Maybe some of you can help?

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        Absolutely agree on the tab groups. I don’t get how this is not implemented yet, it’s a basic feature with great impact to usability.

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          Firefox actually had tab groups way back, but Mozilla, in their infinite wisdom, removed it because apparently their main mission now is to antagonize all their loyal power users.

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          No amount of refreshing or clearing cookies and cache has helped so far. It just says “video not supported” no matter which file I try to play.

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            What are you trying to play ? Probably should contact mods. Would be good for them to know. Others will have similar problems.

            Do you have add one ? I need to turn off dark mode for some sites as it breaks it. Those are the only issues I’ve had.

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              It is probably a very specific issue, since I can’t find anyone else that has it, at least not doing the usual google-fu.

              When using the Stremio web client, firefox refuses to play anything I throw at it, whereas everything plays fine in the chromium browsers I’ve tried.

              No amount of turning extensions off or clearing cache or cookies or refreshing has fixed it so far.

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                Fire through the link and maybe folk can check it out. I know GeForce now doesn’t work on Firefox and steam doesn’t play nice.

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    To abuse a saying…

    Best time to be on Firefox? Yesterday.

    Second best? Today.

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      such old news though

      google became the villain the moment it decided to become publicly traded and chose to be the internet’s ad pimp rather than a search engine

      most of us are too young to remember but there was a time when you could search for something obscure and actually find it

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      I just can’t get used to Firefox. Last time I tried it (earlier this year), I tried for 2 months. Can’t remember all the reasons, but using the adresbar as calculator and see the results without pressing enter is so ingrained in my way of working. Just alt+d, 2+2 shows the result. Give me something better than that and I’ll give Firefox an other shot.

      Edit: lol at my downvotes. That’s what I get for asking a genuine question I guess. People really looove their Firefox here. (me too, but I’m missing some features)

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        Weird do you have a screen shot you can share? they look fine to me.

        Could it be something withyour windows installation?

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          Here is a picture that demonstrates the problem. On the left is Firefox and on the right Thorium (Chromium). I’ve had this problem on Windows before but now I’m using Linux and it’s the same unfortunately.

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              Using DuckDuckGo (Android), which is chromium-based, it has the same problem, all text weights are bolded at the maximum values.

              It looks like Firefox is trying to be more respectful of the text weights, when deciding how to bold text.

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            Here is a picture that demonstrates the problem. On the left is Firefox and on the right Thorium (Chromium).

            If I’m understanding that screenshot correctly, it looks like Thorium (Chromium) is ignoring the text values and bolding any of them at the max bolding value, where Firefox respects the text values and bolts off of that just slightly.

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        It’s been forever since I last looked, but can’t you actually change what fonts are used from within Firefox directly?

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        I did have a strange issue with that in the past, but not any more.

        I think it went away after going through the Windows ClearType gubbins again.

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    Never thought this would be the thing that drove me to degoogled myself, but here we are. I put myself back in an apple silo purely out of spite. Converted all my gmails to other services, like hey.com and tutanota, I PAY a search engine now Kagi.com.

    They really burned my soul. Fuck Google.

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        I’ve done Linux desktops, and I fight with them too much. Macos is fine by me. Mad respect for Linux users though.

        Non android Linux phones just don’t feel ready.

        Comfy leashes I guess.

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          Pretty sure it is, I ended up trying the free trial because of all the yapping. Don’t bother. 99% of the results are the same as ddg.

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              Lemmy is a poor choice for astroturfing, not because of small user count but because no one here is going to hesitate from removing their content or banning them from the site. On regular social media you can act like a shill and get downvoted and hated on, but here the punishments are actually handed out, and even if their home instance doesn’t ban them others likely will, effectively crippling said campaign.

              These campaigns work on social media services that will protect them due to corporate interest, something that basically doesn’t happen here.

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        Eh, when Chrome first came out, Firefox was incredibly clunky and slow in comparison.

        At least it was for me, which was why I switched back then.

        Google’s YouTube shenanigans earlier this year got me back to Firefox though, and the more Google does crap like this the more I’m thinking my next phone may take me back to the Appleverse.

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          Yea, i swapped to chrome when it was on the rise, and it was subsantially faster than firefox.

          These days i find firefox as fast, or faster.

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          Trust me, if you care about what’s happening to Google and YouTube right now, you won’t love what has been happening to Apple and it’s products for the last decade or so.