• PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I had never even heard of this guy until like 4 days ago. Now I have to wonder if he can turn water into wine and raise the dead because everyone’s losing their shit over him.

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      For fucking real. It’s like he’s God himself, because everyone want him, nevermind the consequences.

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        I have to believe it’s mostly hype. The man was at the helm when OpenAI suddenly “changed the world” with “AI” (note the quotes) but that seems to be almost entirely a case of luck.

        Like, generative AI models aren’t really brand new. OpenAI just made them really accessible and easy to use for other applications, which is where Altman comes in. He had an ounce of foresight to see the tech was “the future” and a whole lot of luck executing on his plan to bring it to market.

        As a figurehead and leader, that does count for a lot, but not the table-flipping freak outs we see happening.

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          There are a lot of LLMs. None hold a candle to OpenAI’s models still.

          This will change in time, but right now OpenAI is still in front

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      I think its mostly popcorn at this point. The general opinion as I’ve noticed is that OpenAI is severely failing at living up to what it promised. Nobody particularly gives a shit about the board or Altman except some folks that seem fixated about the honestly unhinged postings of his sister.

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    I’m still wondering why he was even fired in the first place. I’d thought that perhaps I just hadn’t paid proper enough attention and missed the reason, but nope, no reason was ever given.

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      I read something about him not being honest with the board, or keeping things from them? Didn’t see any elaboration, though.

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        That’s all they have said as well.

        We fired the guy for a reason, it was a good reason honest, no we’re not going to tell you what it was. Anyway we’ve hired him back now so it’s fine, stop asking questions.

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      They have been asked to provide that by the media, the first temporary CEO they named, and their investors, some of which even threatened to sue of they didn’t disclose it. So either it is something so discriminating to the board they’re willing to rather sink with it, or they actually don’t have anything solid at all and fired him without cause bue to something personal/unprofessional.

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      The reason that makes the most sense in one of the articles I’ve read is that they fired him after he tried to push out one of the board members.

      Replacing that board member with an ally would have cemented control over the board for a time. They might not have felt his was being honest in his motives for the ousting, so it was basically fire now, or lose the option to fire him in the future.

      Edit: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/technology/openai-altman-board-fight.html

  • IrrerPolterer@lemmy.world
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    Wait, just so I get this right… The board fired him; Then members of the board wanted him back; Now he’s back and replaced the board too? - so did he pull an uno reverse on the board of directors or what? How the fuck does that shit work?

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      The entire company (literally almost all the employees) threatened to quit and take jobs at Microsoft if he wasn’t reinstated and the board removed. And that’s exactly what has happened.

      I don’t really have an opinion on this Sam guy or why his employees want to drink his bathwater, but it’s an interesting example of the employees of a company unifying behind somebody.

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          I haven’t seen that take yet, got any links?

          I’m not trying to defend the guy, just actually curious

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            He’s a financial venture capitalist type who made open AI closed source, and tried to pressure the EU into not regulating AI.

            He’s your typical shitbag tech CEO masquerading as a genius. Employees want him back because it’s better for their RSUs/stock options. Bunch of greedy assholes from top to bottom.

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            Have you heard of that creepy orb thing that was installed in a bunch of African developing countries that traded a shitcoin cryptocurrency that is worth nothing and constantly loses more and more value, in exchange for appropriating people’s biometric data, that additionally has never said why they want it or what they want to do with all of that information?

            That’s this guy. He’s the creator and owner of that thing. Dude is a comic supervillain.

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      The long and short of it is, they fucked around and found out who was more important to the future of the company.

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      I’m not convinced this wasn’t a planned strategy to get OpenAI back in the headlines for a week.

      I didn’t think so at first but now that it looks like everything will go back to “normal” before the US Thanksgiving Weekend, I feel like maybe this was a “Chinese Firedrill” to get attention for something other than their training data and legal problems.

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        A whole bunch of people besides Altman still quit though. Is the board going to rehire all of them with new terms, individually?

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          Looks like I’m wrong, before they rehired Altman they ditched the board members responsible for his ousting so there were major changes after all.

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    So why about the board then? These people seem like idiots.

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    Are there some (paid or not, doesn’t matter) great alternatives to OpenAI based solutions like ChatGPT 4 and Copilot?

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      Copilot, yes. You can find some reasonable alternatives out there but I don’t know if I would use the word “great”.

      GPT-4… not really. Unless you’ve got serious technical knowledge, serious hardware, and lots of time to experiment you’re not going to find anything even remotely close to GPT-4. Probably the best the “average” person can do is run quantized Llama-2 on an M1 (or better) Macbook making use of the unified memory. Lack of GPU VRAM makes running even the “basic” models a challenge. And, for the record, this will still perform substantially worse than GPT-4.

      If you’re willing to pony up, you can get some hardware on the usual cloud providers but it will not be cheap and it will still require some serious effort since you’re basically going to have to fine-tune your own LLM to get anywhere in the same ballpark as GPT-4.

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      Not really, that’s why OpenAI gets so much attention, they’re just by far leading the field. Amazon has a copilot alternative though that just does basic completions, I think.

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    Who thinks some Ultra Intelligent General AI is already running things behind the scenes of openAI and threatens the humans of the company if they didn’t bring back the guy who serves the AI.

    • x4740N@lemmy.world
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      Use this instead of a link, it will let you hotlink a image or gif in a comment, not sure about videos as I haven’t tried that yet

      ![](https://media.tenor.com/tEEjB0RnxyAAAAAC/puppet-awkward.gif)