Toyota boasts new battery technology with 745-mile range and 10-minute charging time — here’s how it may impact mass EV adoption::The potential to significantly reduce pollution could be huge.

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    10 months ago

    They could maybe make the battery the same form factor as the other one already in production so it wouldn’t be an issue. The battery tech may not allow that… but it’s possible.

    The rest of the vehicle just cares about the voltage coming from the battery.

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      10 months ago

      It requires years of test drives to go to market and get production quantities enough to sell

      There is a 0% chance it’s available in 2028 if there isn’t a demo unit today.

      It might be in some high end “we’ll sell 1,000 of these cars” by then

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        It’s a battery, they can probably forgo a lot of the usual testing since it’s only necessary to match voltage performance requirements.

        In theory, it could also be used to replacing existing vehicles batteries as well.

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          They can’t bypass certifications

          They’ve also been pushing hydrogen and not working on BEVs while everyone else was working on BEVs

          I like your optimism, but this is just marketing fluff that won’t come to market on that timeline

          I don’t know if the journalist didn’t understand, or Toyota lied, but it’s not happening by 2028

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            What certification does it need other than be certified by Toyota for use?

            You’re right it’s unlikely to happen, but not for any technical or testing reasons like you claimed. If Toyota wants to make it be able to replace existing ones, it’s entirely possible. There’s nothing stopping them other than the battery technology not being able to be the same formfactor for performance.

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              10 months ago

              Then Toyota has some magic power that all the other car companies I work with don’t

              I know Tesla plays fast and loose with NHTSA regulations, but I doubt Toyota will

              This battery technology will have to pass safety inspections, just as Li-ion

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                Test it in existing vehicles, can even do it discretely without the public knowing. Also can be done in lab as well.

                Why would it be magic to make a replacement battery, and how would they be playing fast and loose?

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                  If they had the ability to test it in a vehicle, they would be shouting about it from the hills rather than this “maybe it might be possible” report that keeps getting shared

                  It would be magic to get it into a vehicle in 2028. Every other car manufacturer has finalized their designs past that by now, and aren’t going to risk such a massive change this late in the design process

                  This is part of why the infotainment systems in cars tend to suck. They’re finalized about 6 years before the car goes to market

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                    10 months ago

                    Once they have a functional prototype they can do all that, they still have 5 years. As a replacement battery you could retrofit it to any vehicle, so the model year is totally irrelevant.

                    Some vehicles you’re able to update the infotainment system to more recent version, so maybe not the best example.