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As a Linux newcomer the Wayland/X11 thing has been the most confusing thing I’ve witnessed.
Surely the average person will just use what works best on their system at that time? I don’t get people wishing to throw Wayland in the trash or the people who take issue with people still using X11.
Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.
It’s an age old Linux tradition. We argue about window managers, init systems, sound systems, and anything else we can. Often it’s because people have built a hacked together system based on what used to work for them. Relevant XKCD
And it’s fine when it’s about a roughly equal choice. But Wayland is vastly superior in support and X11 vastly superior in functionality, so I don’t get this argument.
If I could find a compositor for Wayland (and a simple terminal emulator like urxvt, no opengl for acceleration please) as easy and quick to set up as cwm for X11 (with something like dzen2) or fvwm - the issue wouldn’t exist for me personally.
Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.
When we don’t have Windows or Mac users to feel superior against, we will invent issues amongst ourselves.
Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.
You don’t seem confused at all. You summed it up nicely.
And, here me out here: this is a good thing. Nay, a beautiful thing. There are no better things to do because these people care and have a voice. We argue about things for years and make slow progress as people agree or capitulate, and there will always be a fork to avoid those changes people care to enough. No one can just buy the Linux ecosystem and make unpopular changes without broad support. I’m pretty sure a negligible number of people have genuine hatred or prejudice for those using a technology they don’t like. The arguing of Linux and Open Source is a reflection of the most successful form of worldwide democracy ever implemented by mankind.
i started using linux 3 years ago because i literally didn’t have nothing better todo ‘-’
There is no one devoloping for x11 anymore, it is abandonware and dead (even if still usefully sometimes) wayland isn’t the new shiny thing but it has been getting devoloped so so slowly and getting little support, because the focus on x11. Death of x11 is better for everyone
Is something like barrier/synergy already working with wayland?
I wanted to try it so badly, but controlling multiple computers with one set of keyboard & mouse is quite essential to my workflow.Also, does X forwarding over ssh work in some way?
Like, can I open remote GUI programs over ssh on my wayland, like on X11? And less important for me, but still, also the other way round?Thanks upfront!
I have some FOMO here, but last time I checked wayland couldn’t provide me those things, I need for work :-(
I like cheese so I should use X11
I… Like… potatoes…?
I thought you loved the foot-y goodness?
Based and cheesepilled
Not sure where the current wave of FHFIF memes are coming from, but I’m here for it lmao
I’m an adamant believer in its untapped meme potential
stupid old man rant:
spoiler
KDE making random features only available on wayland for no reason like trackpad gestures because memes
GNOME being GNOME which is being useless anyway
And literally everyone else is still using X11 by default, unless you count the 20 random github compositors that no one uses.
I would switch to wayland if it had any actual immediate benefit, especially in performance, but as far as I have tested it doesn’t.
Will probably join it in 2030 when the xfce devs wake up from their eternal slumber and make an update for it
Used Wayland, tried Hyprland. Was cool, somewhat buggy.
Switched to XMonad. No more issues.
Wayland is probably the future, but I just want something that works now.
Well x11 apps are in Xephyr
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Anyone that still wants to use x11 can attempt to maintain it themselves.
