Italy bans cultivated meat products::New law prohibits the production or sale of cultivated meat in Italy, with fines of up to €60,000

  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food

    more like the only nation to consider all cultivated meat a problem and prohibit it instead of regulating it.

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      2 months ago

      prohibit it instead of regulating it.

      It’s like 90% of Italy’s mindset 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

      (Really tho, if we start regulating stuff there would be shit rules)

  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    So they’re banning what’s likely the “end all, be all” meat replacement in the (hopefully not so distant) future just so that being a “livestock farmer” remains viable?

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    ‘In defence of health, of the Italian production system, of thousands of jobs, of our culture and tradition, with the law approved today, Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food,’

    Health? Yeah, get back to me the next time there’s an outbreak of mad cow disease, swine flu, or bird flu and say that to my face.

    Jobs? The synthetic meat isn’t going to make itself, and there will always be a market for “organic” meat in any case.

    Tradition? The human race’s oldest and most persistent fallacy. The democracy of the dead.

    This is shortsighted. This guys sounds exactly like the idiot lawmakers here in America who said solar panels and electric cars will never catch on, so what’s the point in investing in them now?

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      10 months ago

      I wonder how much money the country makes by protecting those traditional methods of producing meats and exporting their products at high prices. Maybe that’s what they’re after. 🤔

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    10 months ago

    We have a really stupid minister in charge of this stuff. And i mean it in the truest sense of the word, this guy has a room temperature iq.

    Anyways, the sale ban will probably fail in court, the production ban will only harm the italian industry because sure as hell they can’t stop european synthetic meat from entering the country.

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    10 months ago

    Well that’s understandable. I too want my meat to have been grown in its own shit and be pumped full of antibiotics and let’s not forget the secret incredient: cruelty.

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    10 months ago

    Yes it’s stupid, yes many Italians are pissed about this too, yes this will sunk our economy even more, yey italy

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    10 months ago

    Is that what the people want, or some big key to power that stands to inevitably lose out? If other countries transition out of meat livestock isn’t it pointless to handicap yourself?

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      10 months ago

      Italian parma ham and such is quite famous and Italians seem to take their authentic cuisine very seriously. Supposedly there afraid that low quality fake meat will overrun the current market. I imagine the meet industry there is quite powerful though so assume lobbying was part of this.

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          Holsteiner Katenschinken also allows the pigs to be from anywhere, but the whole curing process has to be done in Schleswig-Holstein. They could’ve went ahead and said that the origin of the pigs is crucial to its quality and very likely gotten away with it, but they didn’t want to – Danish pigs are cheap and plentiful.

          That Parma doesn’t mandate that all the curing needs to be done there is their own fucking fault and probably greed – of big producers, that is, more interested in cheap labour than protecting local jobs.

          Honestly I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if in the future you’d see lab-grown DOP Katenschinken – the stuff has always been about the specific curing method, enabled by our microclimate. The strict ingredient and process regulations will continue (including mandating that a lot of stuff needs to be done by hand) but if synthetic raw ham achieves a quality to what they’re using now heck why not.


          Side note: Carbonara with Holsteiner Katenschinken and Holsteiner Tilsiter is way better than with guanciale/pancetta and pecorino. Also show me a charcoal maker who can afford fancy import ingredients, fancy local ingredients are just fine. As long as they don’t include cream, that is.

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          10 months ago

          Which means if they allowed cultured meat then surely there gonna be companies trying to find the maximum legal allowed they can add to call it parma.

          Honestly, i am a big fan of proper tasting cruelty free labgrown meat and i cant wait till it gets cheap. I Believe quality might succeed what the average consumer can get now. I am just putting myself in the hide of a conservative Italian lawmaker per exercise.

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    10 months ago

    They’ve cited health, yet I can’t seem to find the health risk argument. Other than that, standard Italian politics where representatives are changed quite often.

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    10 months ago

    Reactionaries opposing technological innovations that would prevent suffering because they’re not ‘natural’. Color me surprised.

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    10 months ago

    Italy you say? The one EU member that has repeatedly used its power to lock down ag requirements and protections for it own foods for the other member states?

    The only upside is that gabbagol is delicious, and who would want to fuck that up?

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    10 months ago

    Slightly off-topic, but, is there a Lemmy community for cellular agriculture, akin to r/wheresthebeef? That’s one of the few remaining subreddits I haven’t found a Lemmy replacement for yet.

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        10 months ago

        Is this something people do at home Grow their own meats?

        Not yet, and possibly not ever. Most current development is limited to academic institutions and small startup companies. But who knows what the future brings? Perhaps one day people will grow steaks at home similar to how one might ferment their own beer or yogurt. My guess is that it would be more trouble than it’s worth for the average people though.

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    10 months ago

    I upvoted the post so others see it, but I do not like that they’re banning it. That’s poopy garbage ass.