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    I honestly think that he doesn’t have to face consequences like normal people because he has enough money to make problems go away. He can be an awful person in interviews, and mean his words too, then even bankrupt his company, and you know what? He will continue being excessively rich.

    His money could be used to fix so many issues en masse. It’s disgusting that he chooses not to do so every day.

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      His money could be used to fix so many issues en masse. It’s disgusting that he chooses not to do so every day.

      One of my biggest gripes is that anyone can have this much money to begin with. We should never have to rely on the ultra-wealthy to fix our problems by making it their pet project, and no one should be able to squirrel away that much money to begin with. All the money that could fix those issues en masse instead pads some sociopath’s portfolio.

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        Personally, I’m okay with a small set of folks being rich as long as they pay taxes. I’m this case, a hell of a lot of taxes. You know, the taxes they should be paying, not what they manage to get away with now.

        Let the legal system enforce that they give back to society in a meaningful way. Close the stupid loopholes. I want to see a meaningful improvement in society from their contributions. Everyone else is worse off unless they contribute.

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    Life without is better. I left over a year ago. No drama, no loss, no issues. Twitter is not family

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      I never really understood the interest even from day 1 back in 2009 out wherever. I only used it to shame companies when their support teams wouldn’t help and that only lasted a few years.

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        yeah same. it always seemed really self-absorbed. I never even touched Twitter until 2020, when I was surprised to hear about all this great political discourse going on. I was… disappointed. No good dialog can happen in 140 characters. rarely bothered to post, read, or log on. it’s just this obnoxious self-promoting slam-dunking virtue-signaling dance.

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          People will cry “but but but the news and emergency information. We absolutely need this”

          No, tweets aren’t news and any municipality that used Twitter as an exclusive means of spreading emergency information was run by morons.

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    “I don’t have any theories that make sense,” Paskalis says. “There is a revenue model in his head that eludes me.”

    You don’t need a complex business model for this to make sense. The man has had “fuck you money” his entire life. Things are finally not going his way and he only has one way to respond… by saying “fuck you” to the people he doesn’t like.

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      Pretty much. I understand the impulse to think he has to have some secret plan, some rational explanation for his behavior. I used to think the same thing, that there was some way he would actually make money from destroying the company, but no. No, he’s just an impetuous, impulsive idiot who tricked himself into having to buy the company at meme stock prices, and is going to burn the whole thing to the ground purely because he is, in fact, a dumbass.

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        That impulse is similar to the impulse I see in conservatives when they claim Trump has to have a plan. “he’s eluded prison time his whole life!” “He managed to become president!” Etc. Like. They insist there’s a method to the madness. That method is that he shouts down anyone who tells him he’s wrong and sells everyone else bravado. That’s it.

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          It turns out that the most unrealistic part of “The Emperor has no clothes” was the crowd realizing after the child points it out that they’ve all been fooled.

          The crowd will chastise the child and throw the child out of society for asking such a stupid question, or for making the emperor look foolish.

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        No shade, and I mean it. But I wonder if you could explain what it was that convinced you that he was smart originally?

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      Yeah. Most people, especially in the establishment press, don’t know or pretend to not know that this is the first time he’s actually shaping how a company is run rather than pay someone else and then take credit for their work like he’s always done.

      Everything went well when he pretended to be Tony Stark inventing and designing every part of his companies while others did it all much better than he ever could.

      Now that he’s publicly making actually meaningful (as in they have a big impact, not as in them making sense) decisions, he’s showing the world that he’s just an extremely impulsive malignant narcissist 52 year old manchild who desperately craves to be seen as cool and edgy by young people.

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    I liked Twitter. I know it’s a cesspit, but as a software engineer it was always the top company I wanted to work at. It didn’t work out (for several funny reasons), but for that selfish reason I’ll never forgive Musk.

    IMO, Musk needs help. If he were a normal person, someone would have pushed him to leave work and find help. As the owner of three companies, responsible for tens of thousands of employees, no chance is he getting that help. He’s constantly baited and prodded by his fan boys, people like Rogan and Chappelle who can deal with that kind of fame, and the press that get content from his antics.

    As for Twitter, I don’t see it dying, until it fails to have a use for Musk. My initial belief was that his “everything app” would use Twitter’s account system to get all of its users, and then he’d sell Twitter and continue with the users - but that app isn’t ever happening. It’s just something he’s desperate to ditch, but his vanity and poor mental health won’t let him do it. For that reason, it’ll just be a zombie app.

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        If he were a normal person, he would have learned the value of real work (out of necessity) and probably would be a much more grounded person.

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          I’ll assume that by normal, we’re referring to him not being wealthy. In that regard, I’d disagree. I think he’s a real narcissist, and even if he didn’t have all his wealth he’d still have similar issues, just on a much smaller scale. He wouldn’t have the large audience he currently enjoys, nor all the attention he gets without his money.

          In other words, without his money we would just view him as another kook espousing whatever idea he happens to find interesting that day.

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      I think the idea (I don’t say plan, because I think it’s more of a seat-of-the-pants situation) was to first destroy Twitter as a platform for any kind of left wing activism.

      Next, make it profitable as a subscription based right wing social media app.

      The shit last week was just a rich, fragile narcissist lashing out at his perceived enemies.

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    Go F Yourself meltdown is probably the final nail in the coffin. It does seem like space nazi knows it’s doomed. Anyone know what happens when bankruptcy happens? Does creditors take over the company? Does he get sued for negligence? Does it get sold to a highest bidder for pennies on the dollar? I’m hoping someone can enlighten us.

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      Go F Yourself meltdown is probably the final nail in the coffin.

      I’ll believe it once they’re actually bankrupt. So many things have been predicted as “killing” the company in the last year yet somehow they’re still going and millions and millions of morons/addicts are still using it.

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        It doesn’t matter how many people use the service, what matters is how many advertisers are left vs how much debt twitter has to service.

        Those two numbers seem to be heavily on the side of the debt now.

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          Yeah. About 47% of all internet traffic is bots and that number seems to be growing year over year. Twitter does still need people to serve advertisements too. So the number of people who continue to use the service does matter. But because it’s directly correlated to the amount of advertisers who will continue to support the platform by paying Twitter to run the ads. But I do think you’re correct. The debt is what will cause problems if advertisers keep bailing. Twitter hasn’t been paying any of its bills.

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      The first kind of bankruptcy, Elon & his Saudi bros keep the company, and the banks lose like 50-90% of their loans.

      The second kind of bankruptcy, the banks get all the servers and office chairs and sell them to either a new data-mining company or a recycler. This isn’t very likely, because most of the value of Xitter is all the people who keep visiting, regardless of whether Elon knows how to monetize them.

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    What is it about him, that makes him look like an asshole? It can’t just be his eyes being too close together, can it?

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      For me, it just looks like he has a certain coldness in his eyes. It’s not a dead or vacant look, it’s just the way a smile, or any other facial expression for that matter, just doesn’t seem to make it to his eyes. There’s obviously life and intelligence there, but it’s not a friendly intelligence. I pulled up the most lizard-man pictures of Zuckerberg for comparison, and even at his most robotic, his eyes still look human. Like there’s some capacity for empathy in there somewhere. With Musk? His eyes just don’t quite read as human to me in an uncanny valley sort of way.

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        The eyes of a fucking aristocrat, care for nothing more than power. No ideals, no kin, no kith. Just a hunger for power for powers sake.

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      It doesn’t help that he’s got this vibe undulating off him, you know the one-- evil, narcissistic, oligarch dork, trying to look cool but failing miserably because it’s impossible to be cool when you’re anywhere remotely close to as big of a dickbag as he is.

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        You mean older photos? Publicity photos? This is the equivalent of “you have been fooled by the media into not liking Trump/musk/whoever!”. For one, this is the photo from the BBC article, not one selected by someone on Lemmy. Then, anyone who watched the video of his ‘interview’ last week can see for themselves he’s looking much worse than he did a couple years ago, and fairly terrible overall.

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    Was it ever profitable? I always thought twitter was always in the red and the only time it made money was when it sued Elon to buy it due to his arrogance and coz it minupilated the stock prices on twitter.

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        They claim to be on track to make another profit year in 2024.

        I’d give better odds to me becoming the king of Thailand in 2024.

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    Does it even matter? Twitter is a cesspool! It only has 1500 employees. In the grand scheme of things there will be negligible economic backlash from this company going under.

    Nobody really cares if Elon loses all that money and the 1500 employees will be able to find employment elsewhere.

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      It’s not the economic side of twitter that matters, but the informational aspects of the network which are now lost, that is the sad thing. It was used by many journalists and other important peer groups as a live news source for which there is currently no equivalent replacement.

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        I completely agree. Thanks to Elon it would be better to take this horse out to pasture at this point.