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    the reason Michael Caine and Tim Curry are so good in their respective Muppet movies is that Michael Caine treats the Muppets as fellow actors, and Tim Curry treats himself as a fellow Muppet

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        The Three Musketeers is basically unwatchable without Tim Curry hamming it up in a cape.

        The lead actors are all terrible.

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          It took me until I saw that guy on tiktok who does a Nigel impression to learn that Tim Curry was the voice

          Edit: So I misunderstood this comment and came to the wrong conclusion. I thought they were talking about Nigel Thornberry from Eliza and the Thornberry’s

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      Man… I love this description so much, like a glimpse into the intellectual processes that go into the acting on screen, in best case scenarios like this one - top actors surrounded by sock puppets - there are crucial and consistent choices to be made.

      It’s like what they say about dogs and cats.
      Dogs see themselves as fellow humans.
      Cats see humans as fellow cats.

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      The only way you die on that hill is from crushing as we are all crowded on there with you.

      Hell, I picked up the book last year and had forgotten that Marley was a single (former) partner, not two brothers.

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        I work in a hospital and sometimes people have these air pumps on their legs that prevent blood clots. I often joke when disconnecting them, “We have to take those off so you aren’t dragging it behind you like Marley and Marley.”

        Then i remember that’s not the original version.

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      I know people who worked on it.

      I have a decade of experience in film and have worked on some cool shit and I logically know that just like what I have done at the end of the day it’s basically a job like the one that I am doing… But I envy them that one credit so fucking hard and will beg them for stories of what it was like as though I am a starry eyed child who wants to be them when I grow up.

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    I’m sorry but it’s my favorite Michael Caine movie. Yes, yes there’s a plethora of amazing movies, but this one is the one I fell in love with as a child and it’s stuck with me now. He’s stellar in it too.

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    ‘I’m going to play this movie like I’m working with the Royal Shakespeare Company. I will never wink, I will never do anything Muppety. I am going to play Scrooge as if it is an utterly dramatic role and there are no puppets around me.’

    I love how he mostly took the role so his daughter could see him in something, since she was too young to see most of his stuff, but he ended up really enjoying it and considered it one of his best roles.

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      It’s also great for the film because it contrasts with the muppets and makes them funnier.

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    Surely people don’t actually think he should have played the role all wackedy schmackedy, right?

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    So this is off topic, but why (well except maybe Scrooged) haven’t there been truly scary versions of “A Christmas Carol?” With the muppets you know what you to expect, and the version with Alistair Sim had a very frightening ghost of Jacob Marley. To me it cries out for a real fever dream treatment, make it as dark as possible. (Well except for the Tiny Tim scenes, obviously).

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      The original, and many adaptations, use morality to show the horror.nthere is no abject and outright scary shit except for the ghost of Marley who was deliberately scary to Scrooge. But even Marley was soon shown to be a miser in chains who is more grumpy than scary and there’s no way to fix that because he’s a ghost who has to tell Scrooge what’s happening. Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees are scary because they say nothing. Having a ghost give a message instantly undercuts the terror.

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        I disagree about your last point. Talking ghosts can absolutely be scary if it’s done right. The Exorcist demon is pretty famous for both frightening people and never shutting up, and demons and ghosts often serve similar purposes in horror movies. It could have easily been framed as a ghost possession instead of a demonic possession.

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        Well being dark doesn’t automatically make something a horror story to be fair, does it have horror elements or presentation? Like does it try to frighten or at least unnerve the audience purposefully?

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      It would be interesting to see a take on the story that went for horror as the genre.

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        I keep hoping someone will go full scale horror show with it - atmospherically speaking. It’s really quite a frightening story in many ways.