There’s just something fucking hilarious about laying off employees, mocking them, and being sued for improperly firing them – and then whining that your competitor hired them and that they have access to Twitter information still.
I believe this fits well under the “fuck around and find out” doctrine.
I love how companies can be like “you can’t have those people they belong to me”. And that’s somehow normal.
That’s how corporations view us peasants. As their property that they are entitled too.
But it’s not normal. Elon has done a terrible job with Twitter from the beginning, and this is just one more error in judgment. Twitter will lose on this point unless they can prove that these people are using “secret inside info” at Threads. Courts take a dim view of not letting people pursue their livelihood. The fact that these people were fired does not help their case.
In America you can sue anyone for anything. This is probably just something the lawyer’s added to their actual lawsuit regarding IP. Threads does look and act kind of like Twitter, but you can’t patent a message board.
I also read yesterday metas statement on this and the threads team doesn’t have any previous Twitter employees. They all work on other teams. Such a problematic world we live in.
Feels very American to me.
We expected anything else from the man whose inherited wealth was literally produced by slaves? He’s incapable of considering “employees” anything but property.
“How dare they use our abandoned slaves? Slave should stay forever loyal to their master no matter how we mistreat it. They are our property, we have all rights to their use, skills and knowledge.”
If this goes anywhere, Confederacy actually won the long game.
It is ridiculous for any company to claim they are entitled to the knowhow of professionals they fired.
Yes we fired them! No we didn’t pay their severances!
But also… MINE.
Elon is such a pathetic twat.
He’s such a fucking cry baby
Also forced them into arbitration, then refused to arbitrate the dispute.
Non compete clauses are illegal in California.
It’s dumb that they’re not illegal everywhere but Twitter and Facebook are both located there.
They’re rarely enforceable elsewhere, anyway. They usually depend on intimidating people, since they’re not likely to win in court for the vast majority of cases (which is why they should be straight up illegal).
It’s fairly ridiculous. So long as they don’t take company property with them from the previous employer, there really shouldn’t be an issue. Patents should be more than sufficient to protect IP. If you’re concerned about someone building on that patent independently, you should probably do what it takes to keep them.
I mean Elon fired so many where did he expect them to go 🥴
Elon views even previous, no longer employed workers as his slaves for life. The truly disturbing thing is he’s not the only one with that mindset.
You can take the man out of the emerald mine, but you can’t take the emerald mine out of the man!
Zuck and Meta are massive pieces of garbage but seeing Elon get owned where it hurts is hilarious lol
I’ve heard Zuck called a lot of names. A LOT of them, most of them well deserved and fitting…but I’ve not heard very many people call him stupid or bad at his job.
Elon on the other hand…
The thing is, Zuck doesn’t have a rabid fan base who licks the shit he drops as he walks. Zuck sucks but he keeps to himself and his business most of the time. Elon on the other hand has a huge rabid fanbase who treat him like he’s the messiah reincarnate. Which makes it all the more satisfying when Elon loses over Zuck. Seeing Zuck doing something and failing just makes me shrug and say “He deserved it.” Elon, on the other hand, I REVEL in seeing his stupidity bite him in the ass again and again.
Idk, the whole meta thing he went all in on was bit of a bad call. But other then that I agree. They definitely won in the VR space and were very smart to go cordless standalone and affordable. Too bad the underlying network is invasive as hell.
Was it though? The Metaverse may have been an unsuccessful venture but it was a pretty successful rebrand. Facebook was getting dragged through the shitter (100% deserved), and while nobody seems to give a shot about meta, you do hear less and less about Facebook from just about everywhere. Zuck somehow managed to distance himself from his cancer of a product without shutting it down in any way shape or form just by changing the name of his company to a dud product.
That’s savvy, even if it wasn’t the profit factory outcome he wanted. By comparison, Elon is speedrunning driving the ONLY real competition Facebook has right into a brick wall.
People have been ripping on Zuck for the past 4+ years about his investment in the metaverse…
Here is an analysis of twitter’s legal letter by a litigation lawyer.
tldr: letter is weak
This confirms what everybody has been saying: this letter is just a PR stunt.
Elon Musk’s entire existence is a PR stunt. After all, they already fired their marketing department.
this is the same guy that says that wfh is unethical. he clearly sees workers as his serfs since he feels entitled to their work even after firing them.
Let me try to see if I get the logic here. So a company fires a lot of people, and then another company hires them.
These workers then are leveraged by the new company to do something similar to what they have been doing in the previous company. This allows the new company to create a competing product that seems to capture part of the previous company’s market.
But now the first company wants to sue the second company for… leveraging those recently dismissed workers?
One of those companies seem to be acting in a very strategically sound way, and it’s not the one which fired those workers in the first place…
Interesting, isn’t it? When you have a problem with Twitter they send you a poop emoji, but when Twitter has a problem they fire off a cease-and-desist within hours. Elon is the perfect capitalist.
Personally I am enjoying watching these 2 idiots go after each other.
Zuckerberg isn’t going after anyone lol. Elon is having a petulant breakdown as per usual
Zuckerberg is going after Elongated Muskrat by creating Threads and taking advantage of Twitters weakness.
Elon didn’t need any extra help running Twitter into the ground, but it’s already too late to put the genie back in the bottle, Threads is already going to take over, and it’s honestly 1 solid update with added features away from absolutely decimating Twitter.
I would’ve preferred more people migrate to Mastadon, but that’s over, any momentum that may have had will be sucked away by Threads until they screw up, hopefully by then Mastadon will be in a better position to capitalize on user dissent.
Mastadon was never going to be mainstream, really, it required too much activation effort from people who are used to everything being streamlined and now are expected to start over. Threads can immediately port over any Instagram user and everything they already do, there is little to no barrier for entry.
Services from non-tech giants are only going to appeal to people willing to put the effort in to remove themselves from those company’s clutches. Which isn’t most people.
Threads is federated. So even if Threads absolutely takes over the microblogging market, that doesn’t kill Mastodon. Instead it guarantees the long term viability of Mastodon.
At least that is my naive hope.
That hope is indeed naive. If you want to see what threat Threads poses, look at how Google killed XMPP.
On the other hand, google didn’t kill smtp with Gmail.
First of all, SMTP was much more well-established before Google came along than XMPP was.
Second, from what I’ve heard, Gmail (and other big players like Hotmail etc.) did have a substantial detrimental effect on the proverbial “little guy’s” ability to self-host email… at least if he wants outbound messages to actually be delivered instead of blocked, anyway.
Agree that’s my hope, that it takes the whole idea of the Fediverse into the mainstream, and that it will live on no matter what happens to Mastodon.
One solid update, and a good desktop version of Threads and Twitter is done for, especially if a Threads API comes out and third party devs make apps as well.
LOL!! Someone doesn’t like free market capitalism! LOL!!
Wait, so Elon doesn’t want the people he fired, but he also doesn’t like it when they move to the competition? Is this guy fucking ret*rded or something?
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He’s surprised because he told his managers to “kill half the staff.” They assumed he meant lay them off.
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