And that they will federate with them ? (Can’t seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we’re gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I’m not gonna do it again because some people can’t realize how toxic it’s going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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    I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ?

    I have switched instances a lot. I don’t like the idea of other people curating my feed.

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    The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven’t tested it though.

    Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won’t work well on their end. This presumes that they’ll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn’t care … just that there’s probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads’s implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

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      Thanks for the infos

      I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn’t expect an instant “everything turn to crap” moment, but good to know that there’s an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won’t try something to “absorb” as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.

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        I’m with you.

        If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

        My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610

        It’s by @kissane@mas.to on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.

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          Yikes

          Meta’s lead for Threads, Adam Mosseri, was head of Facebook’s News Feed and Interfaces departments during that long, warning-heavy lead-up to the genocide of the Rohingya in Myanmar. After the worst of the violence was over, Mosseri noted on a podcast that he’d lost some sleep over it.

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            Yep. I didn’t know that part.

            And somewhat symbolically, his account is the first you can follow from mastodon. You can file him and get his posts in your feed right now. I’m on an instance that hasn’t blocked threads and I’m following him now. Creepy TBH.

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          Thanks for the shares, very interesting, it’s much worse than I thought it turns out ahah

          I’m not on masto, lemmy is enough to browse for me on a daily basis but I might check out a few things there

          Now, even though it might not change much to the future of the fediverse with meta meddling, I’m definitely migrating !

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    Threads won’t affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.

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    I’m having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn’t own up, and now I’m at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn’t defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn’t that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you’re supposed to be able to leave easily as well.

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      Ive had comment buggieness on lemmy.world. comments would only go public hours later. Mabe a client bug, mabe .world oddness

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    I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.

    If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?

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      Fallacy much ?

      Because I don’t want to be federated with threads doesn’t mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there’s such a thing as nuances.

      I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn’t is to leave, you don’t see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn’t say.

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        Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It’s as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don’t get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

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          Calling defederating Threads a “panic kneejerk reaction” is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

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            It is exactly that. Nothing happened yet, and people were calling for defederation already. It is a panic reaction.

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              If we are not on Facebook or others its not for nothing. Theses reaction are not panic 🙄.

              Politics, convictions, ideology are words too.

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                These reactions are for nothing. I personally don’t want to be a part of a dead social network with just the extreme kinds of people. This is an opportunity for the fediverse to grow and diversify. All that people are doing is being scared of any change - which is a dumb approach to it. When there is a reason to defederate - then defederate. Don’t do it “because it’s meta”.

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                  Yeah yeah, why are you here and not on reddit, if I read u. Lmao.

                  End of the discuss for me with you. You can DV now, you reddit user ;-)

                  And next time, answer instead of going around BC you are “wrong”

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              So you are very ignorant about who’s behind Threads, how they operate and what they do, roger

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                And you are very panicked, going off of the “slippery slope” fallacy and basically doomsaying, got it.

                I told you already - block them yourself. Nothing changes for you, and people who want an actual userbase to interact with aren’t blocked by it.

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                  Calling very justified wariness about Threads “doomsaying” is naive, at best.

                  If I let you keep going you’re about to tell me that Facebook and Instagram aren’t that bad, so let’s stop here.

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            Calling defederating Threads a “panic kneejerk reaction” is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

            What they do is not to federate with anything at all because that feature isn’t even implemented on their end.

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          Learn how the tool works before.

          If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

          You will just don’t see the Thread specific content.

          You are the jerk here

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            Great job insulting me. I can perfectly fine block people from a specific instance and not see their posts or comments at all.

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              Yeah yeah individually, block the billion from thread. Lmao. Don’t say you are wrong, when you are.
              🙄

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                You can block entire instances and their comments won’t appear to you. You don’t need to block “a billion people”. Just the fact that you want to block them says a lot about you - preffering an empty echochamber to an actually working fediverse.

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                  Read again the entire discussion, answer next. What you are saying is wrong. You dont know how work Lemmy v0.19 obvisously

                  If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

                  You will just don’t see the Thread specific content.

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    I beleave there are tools to transfer account settings, personally, keep at least 2 lemmy accounts around (we had a DDOS scandle a while back), dont delete your world account just yet. lemm.ee is like what world is/was before filling up with users, else look at the lemmy server browser. Hope you end up somewhere happy, wherever you end up going.

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    Let Lemmy.world die Alone and leave them.
    They dont care about ideology or others, they are juste sharky and want to make for them a name on the work of others.

    I see it like it,

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    Join us on lemmy.ml! Small and chill instance. Most people are nice left leaning FOSS geeks, interactions are mostly super nice. The only thing I dislike is the Chappo Trap House community, they will basically bully anyone who’s not a chappo-bro. I blocked them and voilà ! EDIT: Lol, why am I getting downvoted ?