He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached “intolerable levels”.

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas’s 7 October attack on Israel.

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    Interesting how you used Oslo II and not the failed camp David summit options that Israel tried. Palestine is in an even worse state than it was back then yet still fighting for the same thing.

    You also bring this up without any thought of the Abraham accords which is more interesting. Israel might be digging it’s own grave but the US needs them as they are a strategic ally deep in the heart of the OIC block. So people shouldn’t expect the US’s involvement other than support.

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      Oslo II was signed by the PLO on behalf of the Palestinian people. It’s the most recent document that both sides agreed to, dealing with partition of land. Israel has failed to do what it agreed to and slowly cede back the West Bank entirely - they have done the opposite and taken more land.

      Camp David accords was between Israel and Egypt, decided without the Palestinians, and condemned by the UN and rejected as illegitimate by;

      • Resolution 33/28
      • Resolution 34/70
      • Resolution 34/65 B

      And yes the rapprochement with the Saudis is a big development towards normalization and stability for Israel, and cements alliances between the region - but Israeli realpolitik is fucking up the juggling act US diplomats are doing.

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        Sorry I forgot the part where PLO leader Arafat refusing any concessions in camp David was Egypt’s doing. I forgot that the reason the second intifada and Hamas uprising was because of pesky old Egypt not negotiating for them or that the UN called it illegitimate. The part where the entire world was puzzled why Palestinians refused any offers that apparently Egypt was doing, very weird.

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          Arafat wasn’t a part of the Camp David Accords in 1978, you’re confused with the 2000 Camp David summit.

          That 2000 summit fell apart because of a loggerhead over what is fundamental to both sides, and an Israeli negotiation redline hypocrisy - right of return. Arafat may well have been an Arab nationalist who wanted the three no’s forever and wouldn’t sign anything - but then why engage and negotiate at all? Concessions were offered from on both sides but Israel refused to permit those in the diaspora to return to their land, all while funding birthright trips for foreign Jews.

          Egypt has a viable country and government, and got the canal back and A SHITLOAD of land Israel had taken. Palestinians were being offered what the US and Canada gave the First Nations after we broke treaty after treaty.

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            Ah shit you got me i got the words swapped. I meant the summit being the last attempt of a treaty that Arafat didnt even bother trying to negotiate. What i was trying to say was there was an attempt for land swaps and a passage way for peace but the PLO captain shat his pants and decided he wants murder on his hands. Oslo II might have been the last official treaty but there have been attempts to get peace and a 2 state solution since then.

            The only reason Egypt even has the Sinai back is because Israel offered it back as a sign of peace after it was captured. Palestinians have nothing to offer. Not even the Egyptians want them back in the Sinai now.

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              Not even the Egyptians want them back in the Sinai now.

              That is an extremely problematic view. It reminds me of the Évian Conference where Hitler was arguing that “no one wants the jews” since the US, UK, and other countries refused to take in german jewish refugees, and thus “the final solution” was spawned. It’s an extremely dehumanising view that ended up in genocide. Please refrain from repeating such opinions.

              Besides that, the Palestinians have a long history in Palestine. I don’t understand what you’re hinting at with “wanting them back”. Back where? They already have a home.

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                You misconstrued what I said. I meant they don’t have anything to offer either Israel nor Egypt. Even if they wanted to negotiate again, they don’t have anything going for them. Don’t twist my words to fit some other topic.

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                  Tbh, if you don’t want people to misunderstand the things you say, then you need to start saying things with your chest. Stop posting inscrutable and reactionary blandities and start posting clear and intelligible opinions supported by as many facts as you’re able to muster. Lemmy will be a better place if you do :)

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                    Wow so I don’t play along and you hit me with the “reactionary blandities”. You can confront what I said rather than spout off. I’m sure you have some great points to cover. I don’t particularly like being made a scarecrow but please educate me.

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                  The do explain why you said “they don’t want them back”. When have the majority of Palestinians come from the Egyptian part of the Sinai peninsula? Since you’re obviously taking about this “back” it implies they must come from there, right? And please do explain what that message is hinting at or implying. Why would it even matter if someone “wanted them back”?

                  Let me put it this way for you: Do Europeans want the Ashkenazi Jews back? Does that even matter? Can you see how out of place this sounds now?

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                    Why are you guys harping on one sentence… All I meant was that Palestine has 0 friends here. They have no leverage yet they want fucking Oslo II to come back like if the last 20 years was a bad dream.

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      Their shit disturbing at every opportunity is probably creating more problems than supporting them fixes. Every time Mossad goes off page and assassinates someone else, they’re making more enemies.

      We know it’s because if there was ever peace accidentally made in that area, Israel would be out of a job and hence the money, so there’s no fucking way they’re going to let that happen. So destabilizing the area is in Israel’s best interests.

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        Huh??? How does Israel lose money if there was peace??? I am curious to hear your opinion on what kind of revenues makes up Israel’s GDP and where instability of the Middle East fits into that.

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            So the usual $5B in aid that Israel gets. You know Israels GDP was close to $600B last year right?

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              They had a budget surplus of less than $5b least year, so that money still makes a difference. Not sure if it’s just the usual $5b either right now, I didn’t go digging hard for it, but the data I saw for for much aid the US sends Israel was from before Oct.

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                  US government gives $5b to various US weapons manufacturers who then send weapons to Israel, who then has weapons without needing to spend their own budget money on them, saving $5b.

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                    What do they need this funding for again? Would they need this if there was peace?