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      I think it’s a reference to the Stanley cup craze and subsequent tiktok posting about bioavailable lead in damaged ones

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        That sounds incredibly stupid. What kind of testing was done to suggest this? Surely the FDA would have a thing or two to say about it.

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          IIRC it’s a part of the vacuum-sealed thermal insulation of the cup, which is covered by stainless steel. So it’s fairly resistant to damage, they do a lifetime warranty, and if the seal is broken, the thermally insulating function of the bottle is compromised anyway. I guess that’s enough for the FDA? Obviously ideally you’d just prefer no lead at all? It was apparently charcoal until 2008.

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            Ah yeah, I’m seeing people saying it’s the solder joining some internal parts together, so that’s a total non-issue. But still… this is the one place where I wouldn’t defend leaded solder over the leadless alternatives.

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        I do and I haven’t! But I tested my paint chips… I guess they’re sweet for some other reason :'(

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    Moral of the story? Invest in clock factories, they ain’t going away anytime soon.

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      I’m starting to think lead cups may be a good investment if she can drink from one for 200 years.

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      Yeah, we all know asbestos would make a better insulator for your coffee and whatnot.

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        “I don’t normally do followup videos on Project Farm, but this is truly incredible! It’s been three days and the coffee in this mug still feels as hot as my lungs!”

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          I… I’ve honestly never heard that question before. I imagine it’s not great since the problem is the tiny sharp fibers cutting up your lungs. I’m sure chewing asbestos would make your gums feel spicy.

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            With some minor research it looks like in general consumption is at least not as dangerous as inhaling it.

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          I won’t debate that, it’s something I saw on Internet Today. Hell due to my lifestyle I’ve never actually seen the cup in real life.

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          Man, you just reminded me about how much I used to love stealing pieces of solder off the spool in my dad’s office. I loved how I could bend and tear metal with my bare hands like Superman. I loved forming it into a spiral and pretending it was a coin. Then I’d bite and bend it like Underdog. Sometimes I’d just chew on it cuz it was kinda sweet.

          One day, my dad got a new kind of solder that didn’t taste as good.

          Anyway, it turns out I’m a moron…

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          Until the plastic falls off and you handle it, wash it, etc.

          As for pipes whataboutism, how about we stop introducing new products with lead?

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            If the bottom falls off I hope you’re intelligent enough to realise that your cup is broken

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              At this point you should read your own link. From the description of how it works, it doesn’t sound like a critical part at all. It’s part of the plastic flair on the outside. The cup is still perfectly functional and insulating.

              I guarantee you’ve used many things after a piece of nonfunctional plastic broke off.

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              Right I read that. It confirms lead is present in the bottom of the container.

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                At the bottom, on the side that’s not in contact with your drink, under a plastic cover…

                Man, people are flipping out while they probably drink water from copper pipes with lead solders at home and they never worried about it when these are actually in contact with their water!

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                  Yes you’re intentionally ignoring the fact that washing the fucking thing causes lead exposure to anyone unaware of this issue. Copper pipes from 40 years ago aren’t really relevant to the Convo. Not sure why you’re simping so hard.

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          A huge number of people are drinking from lead pipes. It’s not a consequential difference from lead cups.

          Children are working at all kinds of jobs, not just factories, and the ruling class is pushing to expand child labor.

          We don’t have a king, but we have more stratification in class than in the prior eras.

          There’s no direct metaphor, but the tweet is showing that the fact pattern can change without conditions improving.

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    I mean I legitimately do understand why you’d be so upset if you really believe nothing has changed in 200 years. Because you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid and that shit hurts.

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      Ontario recently legalized high school students dropping out and getting a full time job before graduating.

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        Was it illegal for people to work before age 18 previously?

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        Well, if they’re gonna drop out they’ll need some kind of experience to make it in the real world later on. Might as well be work experience, I guess.

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          Another way to look at it is that they are being given the choice between:

          • Finishing school, which they may not enjoy, but will set them up to be at least somewhat employable in the future. And introduces the possibility of further education to become even more employable.
          • Getting paid minimum wage, which sounds pretty good when you are living with your parents and aren’t paying for food or rent. But of course is incredibly unstable work and cannot be relied upon to cover living expenses once they’re an adult.
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            You aren’t wrong by any means. It sucks all around, but at least they’re being given the chance to contribute in some small way even if it isn’t ideal. However, I highly doubt any employer they’ll work for will treat them with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings regardless of their age or circumstances.

            Still, silver linings and all.

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              What exactly is the silver lining? They’re being given an option which feels like a shortcut, but will ultimately harm their future opportunities. And this is at a point when their brain development and life experience is insufficient for them to make a rational decision. Basically the economic realities may coerce them into mortgaging their chances of future success for a quick buck.

              Plus, they aren’t “contributing” to anything except wage suppression. Teenagers are less sensitive to being paid a living wage. This was done by Ontario’s Conservative government as a way to appease the sort of business owner who says “nobody wants to work anymore” while refusing to pay more than starvation wages.

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                I’m thinking about the sorts of folks that drop out of high school. Better for them to be able to get work experience early on rather than have to leech off their parents for a few years while not being able (or willing) to give anything back.

                I’m not saying the situation is ideal by any means, certainly. In an ideal world, every kid would be able to get an awesome education and become amazing contributors to society. We don’t live in that world. We live in a world where people are too poor to afford to drive their kids to school, to afford the lunches they’re being forced to pay for their kids at that school, to afford the supplies they need, etc etc.

                If our lawmakers aren’t going to fix larger societal problems, at least these kids can try to make it by, rather than simply being a drain. And yes, I know this law passing is only making things harder to fix in the long run, but at least the kids are allowed to do something that might help ‘em stay off the street or off drugs. Yes, companies are going to exploit them for cheap labor… like they do adults. The issue isn’t just that kids are working, the issue is also that companies are allowed to exploit anyone, regardless of age. That’s a larger issue that will take a lot more effort to fix.

                So in the meantime, let the kids at least try if their means prevent a better life otherwise.

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      Florida is currently trying to roll back child labor laws so children can work construction and roofing

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        I suppose it doesn’t need to be your king, although it is implied.

        And they did give an entire town lead poisoning.