What happened next that evening in May 2021 is the basis for a lawsuit by the mother alleging that Burlington police used excessive force and discriminated against her unarmed son, who is Black and has behavioral and intellectual disabilities.

After he failed to hand over the last of the stolen e-cigarettes, two officers physically forced him to do so, then Cathy Austrian’s son was handcuffed and pinned to the ground as he screamed and struggled, according to a civil lawsuit filed Tuesday and police body-camera video shared with The Associated Press by the American Civil Liberties Union of Vermont.

The teen eventually was injected with a ketamine, a sedative, then taken to a hospital, according to the lawsuit and video.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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    If you have a problem and you call the cops you now have two problems

    Edit: Also, who administered the ketamine? Had they received training in appropriate dosing? Or did some dumb cop just shove a needle into a kid and hope he didn’t die.

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      Or did some dumb cop just shove a needle into a kid and hope he didn’t die.

      Or did some malicious cop just shove a needle into a kid and hope he did die?

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      Usually it’s administered by EMS. At least here it is.

      At least it’s supposed to be. Cops generally only have slightly better medical training than you’re average cpr/fa/aed cert holder.

      Basically, it’s just enough they can say they tried to keep that guy they just shot alive long enough for EMS to show up.

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    Obviously the police are the criminals here, but that mom…

    They clearly didn’t grow up being told what I was always told: “if you’ve got a problem and you call the police, now you’ve got two problems.”

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      Yeah this is some abusive, privileged bullshit and I really hope this idiot learned a lesson. I also hope her child reminds her of this shit anytime she starts mounting her high horse in the future.

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        Yes, the elderly woman that adopted an at-needs child of color is the one being abusive and privileged.

        The abusive, privileged bullshit is your comment.

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    Absolute definition of white privilege to think that calling the police to lecture her black son would yield positive outcomes.

    I say this as a white person.

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      What sound does a cow make? Moo. What sound does a dog make? Woof. What sound does a cat make? Meow. What sound does a pig make? UP AGAINST THE WALL MOTHER FUCKER.

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    Police are not an education service. They’re armed men who have been trained to be aggressive.

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      Police are not an education service.

      They like to pretend they are. Schools used to invite them into classrooms in the before times.

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      Right in the first part, but for the second: police come in more than one gender and the training is the same.

      (Afaik on the training part - I welcome being proven wrong!)

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      In most civilised countries, the police is trained to de-escalate conflicts and when the do nedd to be agressive, they are trained for it to not be excessive and certainly not letha…

      Also in most civilised countries, this takes several years not just 6 months.

      That said, I hope that excessive aggression is not taught in the US police and that it is down to bad culture or single bad apples or regions.

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        I don’t think police in other countries are much better. I’m in Canada and our cops can be every bit as bad as American cops.

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    And then people wonder why as a neurodivergent person, I’ve passed over several obscenely lucrative contracts simple because they required me to go to the US for any extent of time.

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      Buddy, I’m not neurodivergent and I also straight up refuse to set foot in that place. I don’t even feel particularly comfortable sharing a border with them at this point. Lots of the people are great, but the government and many of its institutions scare the hell out of me.

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        You live in a country with the fucking RCMP and yet have let the media convince you their institutions are scary.

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          I’m not saying the RCMP (or local cops) are much better, and we have plenty of our own problems. These days those mainly stem from the import of MAGA-style “conservatism,” and I’ll admit that things have been getting noticeably worse around here.

          That said, we don’t have school shootings pretty much every week, insane amounts of gun violence, the overreach of homeland security (my biggest reason for not wanting to set foot down there - crossing the border), people having to mentally run a cost/benefit analysis if they need to go to the hospital, talk of civil war, half our political representatives being clinically insane (here it’s a little less), people going to jail for weed (a small bit of good that’s happened here during a period of general backslide), the alphabet agencies (the RCMP has historically done some heinous shit but it’s child’s play compared to the CIA), the fact that a rapist who actively says he wants to destroy democracy has a very good chance of becoming president again, etc, etc, etc.

          So yeah, I’ll happily stay in the country with the RCMP.

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          Canadian cops are scary too, but it’s not even close. US cops are five times more likely to kill. And Canadian cops don’t have qualified immunity.

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            And yet when they run 14 year olds over with their cruiser in a school playground nothing happens.

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              I did a quick search for this but nothing came up. Do you have a link to an article?

              Cars are the number one killer of children in Canada. We tolerate a disgusting amount of preventable traffic accidents in Canada, but comparing that to killing children by shooting them or putting them into deadly chokeholds is nonsensical.

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      Naturally you should do what you’re comfortable with. I will say that the most upsetting news stories from any place aren’t representative of what it’s like to live there. As a lifelong resident I don’t know anyone personally who has been shot or shot at in the U.S, and don’t know anyone who has been wrongfully arrested or assaulted by the police.

      That’s not to say it’s not a problem that needs to be addressed, it is. Just if someone is turning down opportunities they would otherwise accept out of fear of this thing, I would say they may be overweighting the risk.

      It reminds me how my mom would always text me when I lived in the city, “did you hear about this shooting? Are you ok?” But I wouldn’t have even been aware there was an incident. There are a lot of people in the world. The absolute crime rate has overall been going down. But the ability for us to hear about horrible incidents has only increased.

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        I talked to a guy a while ago that genuinely would not believe I’ve never owned or handled a gun. Absolutely would not accept it and said I was lying lol. I think I briefly saw a hunting rifle in my uncle’s closet as a kid but that’s pretty common even outside the US. There are people out there that really think we’re ALL armed to the teeth I guess

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    Let’s have police reform and additional training or more services!

    Also…

    PARENT YOUR OWN KIDS. Don’t call the cops on your underage children to “teach a lesson” you’re the parent, YOU do it. That call doesn’t come with a lesson, it comes with a pretty larceny charge to help with your kid’s “bad week”.

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    Yeah god bless the woman I’m sure she had good intentions - but she’s not living in some 1990s public service announcement where the nice policeman gives valuable lessons to children.

    Police are like… an absolute last resort “I need someone shot” measure. The fact that we also have them (for no particular reason) also authorize things like reports for insurance related incidents is a pretty colossal failure of “the system” as a whole

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      Exactly this. I can’t imagine how sheltered I’d have to be to still believe calling the police to “teach someone a lesson” is anything but a catastrophically bad idea. And I’m pretty sheltered already!