- Putin has relied on historical borders to argue that Ukraine is part of Russia, justifying the war.
- Mongolia’s former president shared a map of the Mongol Empire, which included parts of Russia.
- “After Putin’s talk. I found Mongolian historic map. Don’t worry. We are a peaceful and free nation,” he wrote.
The former president of Mongolia mocked Russian President Vladimir Putin over the weekend and his focus on history to try to justify his invasion of Ukraine.
Putin has frequently used historical borders to justify his brutal invasion, arguing that Russia has a claim over Ukraine even though Ukraine is an independent country.
In his interview with Tucker Carlson last week, Putin outlined centuries of Russian and European history to justify his invasion. Historians say much of the history he gave doesn’t stand up.
Tsakhia Elbegdorj, who was Mongolia’s president between 2009 and 2017, and was also its prime minister, poked fun at Putin’s argument on X.
Make Asia Mongolian Again
The Golden Hord will rise again
Decreed by Kubla Khan.
Here’s the map:
The Mongolia Empire had way more land than this in its prime. In the late 1200, Mongolian Empire spans from Siberia to southeast Asia, and all the way to east Europe.
It is just Russia didn’t exists back then. 1471 is near the downfall of the Mongolian Empire and it is still huge.
Did Mongolia also not burn/sack Moscow several times for failure to pay taxes. Aka like Trump said he would be fine with Russia doing to NATO countries?
Moscow was a backwater town, not worth marking on a map.
Kiev however absolutely had it’s shit packed in by the Mongols.
Hey wait that looks like Ukraine
Just go take it back, Russia is so wrapped up in the western front they wouldn’t be able to mount any kind of defense until it was far too late to hold Siberia.
Too bad democracy won’t invade like Putin does because peace is the right thing to do.
Just tell em there’s oil.
You mean lithium and titanium
except all the times it did for no reason?
Democracies are a lot like the Romans, they need a casus belli real or imagined before they do war.
There was always a reason. Not always a good one, but a casus belli is still needed.
i can’t deny thats true
Wait for …. The Mongols!
If Mongolia is able to muster anything like the force they had when they invaded, it will hardly matter what Russia can mount
Then again, Genghis Khan didn’t have guns or tanks or planes.
If Russia keeps it up, they might not have those either.
He had birds on fire though.
“NYET LIKE THAT!”
—putin
They would just nuke Mongolia.
They would just nuke Mongolia.
Given how much Russian nuclear maintenance has gone into hookers and vodka over the last forty years, it’s literally anyone’s odds as to whether that shit even leaves the pad before it detonates, if it detonates at all.
All Putin can do is turn the key, aim for Mongolia, and hope it’s not the loss of an entire local region.
And that’s before NATO starts raining down holy hell on him because he just triggered MAD, lol.
It would develop a leak and fall on Moscow.
The UK has decided that they have historical claims to the US, so they will begin their invasion soon.
You bringing socialized health care?
I’ve left the back door unlocked.
Joke’s on you, it’s NHS
Honestly, still beats dying of preventable disease because of fear of the bill afterward. At least this way I can die of a preventable disease due to patient backlog.
Why not both! I spent almost 8 months mostly bedridden last year waiting for a magical American doctor to fix me. Even got kidney disease from all the pain killers/anti-inflammatory meds I had to be on to somewhat function. Now I’m in my 30’s with the blood pressure of someone in their 70’s. Best Healthcare system in the world!
Dad says we have patient backlogs at home
Patient backlogs at home: Undischargeable debt while now a skeleton.
NHS is just suffering from decades of destruction at the hand of the UK’s version of US Republicans. They want it destroyed and continue to whittle away at to make perceptions such as this the norm, until they can fully destroy it.
Definitely. They sabotage it and whine about how inefficient it is, right? Eventually they move to privatize it so rich bastards can get richer. At least that’s been the playbook here in the US for Medicare and USPS.
NHS is better than $20000 band aids.
Ready the muskets folks.
Own a musket for home defense, since that’s what the founding fathers intended.
How many lanterns?
- they’re coming from space
Helldivers 3: Redcoats Bugaloo
I can imagine Redcoats throwing grenades at my Moonshine distillery as I release a wild pack of hogs towards them.
Hey hey hey… Leave the moonshine alone, it hasn’t hurt anyone… yet
Plot twist: you sold the moonshine to the redcoats and it made them blind. Then they come for revenge, except to the wrong distillery
Our oldest rival.
Just like Russia, they need working carriers first.
pfft we won the Falklands War while shipping jets over there on the top of requisitioned civilian cargo ships, we’ll be fiiiine
Our military industrial complex would love to see you try, it would be great for stock prices. If you managed to make it ashore, you still have millions of rednecks that would love to see you down yonder and kick you out of the colonies again. We could drop one JDAM on every square mile of Great Britain(~80,823sqmi) and still have enough munitions to do it again 5 more times.
The terrifying truth is that the entire planet VS America is the only way to beat America in non-nuclear warfare.
My dude you can lay off the bald eagle juice, nobody actually thinks the UK will or wants to try to invade America
I can’t lay off the freedom sauce, they put it in all the food. You know who does think the UK might invade? The Pentagon, they have the threat assessment and battle plans laid out in case 1812 wasn’t just a one time indecression.
But seriously we love y’all like a distant parent and adore your cute accents, but we will make you speak American and gain 3 stone if you decide anything is a war crime retroactively and hold us accountable for our rampant freedom distribution campaigns.
This guy fucks.
To be expected, given his ancestry
We’ve all got a little Genghis in us.
Greece is getting ready to expand too, and solving the Israel / Palestine issues at the same time
The Abbasids and the Umayyads put Alexander to shame.
Sure but Alexander the pretty allright also conquered his territory’s over a thousand years earlier. The Umayyads and Abbasids were doing it in a far more developed world.
Wouldn’t count on it – ask the Seleucids about the Maccabees some time, if you get the chance.
Yay! Go and kick some Mullah-ass!
The BS of historical borders should be brought up more.
angry Israeli noises
The term Judea was revived by the Israeli government in the 20th century, as part of the Israeli administrative district name “Judea and Samaria Area” for the territory that is generally referred to as the West Bank
Also, Russia was founded by Vikings, so I hope Norway is ready to invade.
Probably Sweden
The whole area was a group of different kingdoms, but Norway and Sweden united under one kingdom in the 11th century, so take your pick.
Nah, we were more into scottish monasteries. Ask the swedes.
You guys were one kingdom once. More than once.
True, but we realized that scandinavian internal banter was much more fun across borders.
Hear me out- what if Sweden and Norway united together against the Danes?
Basically sums up my EU4 games as either one
Hey Portugal and Spain, according to the treaty of Tordesilhas together, Portugal and Spain had conquering rights for half the world. And the pope signed it…
And Romans… You had a great empire. So did the Mouros (Arabs) Etc…
Shitfuck nobody pull out a map of the US and its territories.
I’ve been waiting for this. So glad they actually did it.
DAMN YOU MONGORIANS! ALWAYS BREAKING MY CITY WALL!
Don’t worry. We are a peaceful and free nation
…until someone messes with a Mongolian trade delegation.
Good joke, but it’s bold on him to poke fun at one of the only two neighbors Mongolia has, while the other dreams of invading it.
Lol that’s some Mongolian beef?
I would like to see this map.
I have Privacy Badger so I didn’t look at the Xitter post, here’s a map I found from the Wikipedia page
“parts of Russia” is really underselling it.
Yeah. First of all, there wasn’t really a “Russia” at the time. Vikings invaded the European mainland and controlled some settlements like Novogrod. They eventually made it down to Kiev, and for a while there was the “Kievan Rus” state with its capital in Kiev. That was destroyed when the Mongols sacked and completely obliterated Kiev.
In December 1237, Moscow was sacked by the Mongols, and many / most (?) of the civilians were either enslaved or killed. The Ukraine area was important because the Ukrainian lands were so fertile, but Moscow wasn’t, so it retained some independence. Moscow was under the thumb of the Mongols to such an extent that they acted as tax collectors for the Horde, and when town officials resisted the tax collection on behalf of the mongols, Alexander Nevsky (Prince of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Kiev, etc.) had their noses cut off. The Russians only stopped paying off the Mongols in 1476.
Eventually the Mongol force faded due to infighting, and one of the forces pushing them out was based out of Moscow. But, again, this isn’t because Moscow was important and powerful. It’s because Moscow was at the very edge of their territory, and wasn’t a strategically important place the plains of Ukraine.
Putin’s whole “Ukraine has always been part of Russia” is backwards. “Russia” was originally part of the Kievan Rus, based out of Kiev. Eventually, after the chaos following the Mongols, Ukraine was fought over by various empires, but it wasn’t until the 1800s that most of the territory now considered to be Ukraine was in Russian hands.
Depending on the time you choose, Russia was much smaller than that too.
It is in the article.
I must’ve scanned it too fast, so the twitter embed didn’t load.
