• Gork@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I still don’t understand why Navalny returned to Russia. He knew he would be arrested, so why do it at all? Now he’s dead, quite conveniently for Putin.

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      9 months ago

      My assumption would be that he hoped he could at least become a martyr for the Russian people. It is one thing to be accused of crimes, and flee your country forever, it leaves space for Russians to think “well if he is an innocent man, why is he on the run? If he wishes to represent this country, how can he if he flees it?”. Maybe he hoped that by coming back and facing the ridiculous charges, it could at least give him some credibility with the citizens who would maybe see the absurdity of it all, and maybe spark some kind of political unrest. It obviously didn’t work, but in the face of the hopeless political situation in Russia, can you blame him for trying?

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      I don’t think he wanted to die. People like Alexei have a strong moral character. When they know their cause is good and right they will refuse to back down every time. That sense of righteous gives them strength to stand up to even the most horrible dictators. While short sighted in terms of self preservation many would rather die on the side of righteousness than live in a world that is inherently flawed. He died with his dreams in tact which many of us will never have. I don’t think he wanted to be a martyr he just never saw any other choice.

  • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I don’t get the focus on whether he was poisoned/actively killed or not. If he died of “just collapsing” the Russian regime is still 100% responsible for his death. They killed him either way. Putin killed Navalny, the means by which that happened are secondary.

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      9 months ago

      He was a dead man the moment he ran and he knew this. I hope his message reaches out to the citizens of Russia

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    9 months ago

    So what’s the verdict? Novichok? Polonium?

    This crap right here is why we need to keep Putin in check.

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      9 months ago

      No need for poisoning. Where he was -30°C is normal at this time of year. Not giving him a coat would have been enough to kill him

  • kandoh@reddthat.com
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    9 months ago

    General malnutrition plus weakened health from the previous poisoning is my guess.

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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny - a vocal critic of President Vladimir Putin - has died, according to the prison service.

    The Federal Penitentiary Service for Yamal said in a statement: "On 16 February, 2024, in penal colony No 3, convict AA Navalny felt unwell after a walk, almost immediately losing consciousness.

    Nobel Peace Prize winner and campaigning journalist Dmitry Muratov, who is editor-in-chief of Russia’s most famous independent newspaper, Novaya Gazeta, described the death of Mr Navalny as “murder” and said he believed prison conditions had led to it.

    French Foreign Minister Stephane Sejourne said Mr Navalny has paid with his life for his “resistance to a system of oppression”.

    "But it does seem very shocking that his health should have deteriorated to the extent that he’s dead now - given we have seen him in court videos, we have also had a lot social media presence from him via his lawyers where he is constantly seen upbeat and cheerful.

    "He was only recently moved to this prison colony up in the very far north of the country, and it is an absolute tragedy for any notion of a free Russia, a Russian democracy, which was all that Alexei Navalny devoted his life to since he burst onto the scene in 2012.


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    9 months ago

    I wonder why it took this long. Did Putin just want to torture him? Why did Putin keep him around for this long.

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      No, the strategy is to let potential martyrs rot in prison until people forgot about them. THEN poison them. I guess Putin just felt like it had been long enough.

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        I guess the plan worked, his communications with his team and the public were severely hampered by his imprisonment and his team went in a different direction, effectively splitting Navalny’s name into the movement in his name and Navalny himself, but the latter is now dead and the former lost most of it’s traction due to his team’s actions, inaction, and general lack of charisma.

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      9 months ago

      To send the sort of message that only the most dimwitted “conservative” could miss: “fuck with me and i will torture you to death, slowly and publicly”.

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    9 months ago

    Death is just the last time someone loses consciousness… And lots of things can cause a loss of consciousness, in this case, maltreatment, abuse, and neglect.