I’d like to preface this by saying that my prefrontal cortex is mostly lard and anxiety medication, so sorry if I sound stupid here.
Why bother with BlueSky over Mastodon?
Bluesky is a “public benefit corporation”, whereas Mastodon is proper open source if I understood correctly.
To me “public benefit corporation”, just sounds shady. Why should BlueSky be trustworthy? Because of Jack Dorsey?
I know musk turned Twitter into a bizarre fever dream hellscape, but I don’t recall it being sunshine and roses under Dorsey’s leadership either. The platform would pester me for my phone number to “prevent spam” (they really said that shit with a straight face). White supremacists openly just said awful shit. The video player was ass.
But, I’ll be optimistic. Hopefully this won’t be Twitter 2: Judgement Day. I hope it will be a good tool for whistleblowers and breaking news. Ideally, it will have a symbiotic relationship with other federated networks instead of a hostile pain in the ass.
Bluesky has a much better community of artists on it. A ton of comics twitter relocated there. And that’s the content I want so I’m on Bluesky. I’ve tried to get Mastodon to serve me content I’m interested in but it just falls short for me.
In the long run it’s about the community. All the philosophical stuff people mega into Mastodon rant on about doesn’t matter to regular people if Mastodon doesn’t have the content they want.
Also Dorsey only owns like 2% of Bluesky now iirc and had mostly cut ties with it in favor of his Nostr thing because he’s butthurt Bluesky is full of liberals.
From Wikipedia: In business, and only in United States corporate law, a benefit corporation is a type of for-profit corporate entity whose goals include making a positive impact on society. Laws concerning conventional corporations typically do not define the “best interest of the corporation”, which has led some to believe that increasing shareholder value (profits and/or share price) is the only overarching or compelling interest of a corporation. Benefit corporations explicitly specify that profit is not their only goal. Their activities may or may not differ much from traditional corporations.
Curious to see if this is/will ever be compatible with ActivityPub.
Wasn’t there a shitstorm recently because someone made a bluesky-mastodon bridge.
(there seems to be a shitstorm when anyone does anything vaguely imaginative with mastodon though)
One of Mastodon’s biggest issues is all the whiny motherfuckers
True!
Is it based on ActivityPub? I don’t really know much about it other than Jack Dorsey is involved.
It’s not, they have their own system.
Nostr vs Mastodon on Privacy & Autonomy:
- Relay/instance admins can choose which content goes through their relay on either platform
- On nostr, your DMs are encrypted. In Mastodon, the admin of the sender and receiver can read them, as can anybody else who breaks into their server
- On nostr, a relay admin can control what goes through their relay, but they can’t stop you from following/DMing/being followed by whoever you want since you are typically connected to multiple relays at once. As long as one relay allows it, signal flows. Nostr provides the best of both worlds: moderated “public squares” according to your moderation preferences, autonomy to follow/dm/be followed by anybody you want (assuming that individual user hasn’t blocked you).
- On mastodon, your identity is tied to your instance. If your instance goes down, you lose your follow/followee list, DMs, etc. On Nostr, it’s not, so this doesn’t happen. Mastodon provides some functionality to migrate identity between instances but it’s clunky and generally requires to have some form of advanced notice.
- Both have all the same functions as twitter: tweet, reply, re-tweet, DM, like, etc.
Why I think nostr will win https://lemmy.ml/post/11570081
Nostr might be more private and autonomous, but it’s full of crypto shams.
Cue the “OMG it’s so complicated!” comments by people who somehow managed to sign up to email, but this is suddenly too hard.
Why? You realize that you reserve more rights by not including a license than by including one, right?
Why
AI
So you’re hoping judges will collectively reinterpret the definition of fair use under copyright law to exclude the training of AI models? Good luck with that lol
Also, most of your comments wouldn’t be considered copyrightable.
Are you a legal expert? Lawyer? Judge? What gives you any authority on copyright?
I’m not an authority on copyright, nor did I claim to be. I’m just aware of my surroundings.
And again, even if courts suddenly decide that training AI isn’t fair use, you don’t have to attach a license to your comments for it to apply. Content that you produce is copyrighted by default, with all rights reserved. You are exclusively giving away rights by attaching a CC license, not reserving them.
I’m not an authority on copyright, nor did I claim to be.
Didn’t read further than this. Your opinion is unimportant on the matter.
You should reconsider that, because you are most definitely giving up many of your rights to your content.
I can’t tell if the Bluesky team is bad at business or planning some sort of eventual rug pull. They’re certainly a for-profit corporation without any evident way to generate profit, and their words and theoretical design all sound like they’re not easily compatible with profit, but multiple profit-focused entities have given them a lot of money for something that, if implemented as envisioned, will not make them any richer.
My only guess is some form of Embrace-Extend-Extinguish where the core server is better than the rest of the network, but the network exists to assuage fears about another social network implosion or protect from potential antitrust issues while not being a real threat, but it feels like a complicated way to make Twitter 2.0 and get rich.
As long as there’s a profit motive involved, enshittification seems like the expected conclusion. We could just be at step one. From Doctorow’s description of the enshittification cycle:
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
Bluesky’s official app sucks ass, that’s already enough of a reason for me to not use it for the time being. It really is terrible, shitty web view banking app level of terribleness and speed
it looks exactly like the Twitter app
It’s the Twitter app if it was made by backend people
no I have seen apps like that and this is not that it’s something else
I am using another great fediverse Twitter clone called Catodon.social which has a MUCH nicer UI than either Mastodon or Bluesky. I want all corners of the fediverse to do well. It’s the future of social media I think.
bluesky should abandon atproto and use activitypub
