• fidodo@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      The fuck is safety capitalism? Is it just some bullshit word for people who don’t want to say socialism? Fuck, if that’s what it takes for people to accept socialism then they can call it whatever the fuck they want.

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        8 months ago

        Social democracy isn’t sexy enough of a word I suppose. It would be capitalism but with a safety net

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      8 months ago

      Or just basic equality … more specifically WEALTH EQUALITY

      to remove the power of the wealthy to get even more wealthy by exploiting everyone faster

      And to give more power to those with little or no money and give them a chance to gain a bit of wealth.

      Honestly if we just created a civilization where we spread the money around a little more equally, we’d have less psychopaths controlling the world and more people wanting to cooperate in making things better.

      It wouldn’t create a utopia because we’re too complicated to be happy with one another but it would make our situation more tolerable and manageable.

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        8 months ago

        Anarchism has too many forms and communism doesn’t work on a large scale (greed and corruption are too easy).

        I’m not saying capitalism is working!!

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            8 months ago

            Bro. Show me a successful communist nation in which its citizen are happy and with all its basic necessities covered.

            • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.world
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              Bro. Show me a successful communist nation in which its citizen are happy and with all its basic necessities covered.

              Name me a country where this happens.

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                  So, just so we’re clear, Communism doesn’t work, because it hasn’t been successful.

                  But Capitalism does work, even though it hasn’t been successful.

                  We do have Socialist nations and they are doing better than everyone else, with the highest happiness rates, and most of the necessities covered. But to answer your question, we have no successful countries at all. The closest we have are Socialist nations.

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            Lol yes it has, we just know the end results. Stop acting like communism hasn’t been tried.

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                8 months ago

                I see you tankies don’t know what it is at all. My family has lived through that shit, so you can kindly go fuck yourself. Bad capitalism is 1000xs better than anything communism can spit out.

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                    8 months ago

                    Naa I got bored of arguing with a dumbass tankie. You still think communism is going to magically make people want to work harder than others without rewards and you also still think those in power won’t abuse an it.

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          Socialism exists only as a stepping stone to the end goal of anarchism/communism.

          If you don’t believe those work, there is no point in advocating for socialism.

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              Okay.

              But you do realise the Soviet Union was socialist right? We kinda need to move away from the state based control model.

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                  An anarchist/communist based society.

                  We see time and time again what happens when you give all the power to a small subset of society.

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                    I’m all for a classless society, but we need a structure for governing. I’d say a global structure. But I don’t think humans are capable of that kind of thing. Greed and prejudice are too powerful.