• phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Man, Russia is nuts. I dunno where these guys got their beatings, but this seems like nothing you’d see in the US.

    Also, hard to understand how they can blame Ukraine for this while none of the suspects are Ukrainian.

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      8 months ago

      Presumably because they couldn’t find any Ukrainians to pin the blame on.

      I’m somewhat skeptical about if these people are actually responsible, since I would have thought that a properly organized terrorist would actually leave the country pretty pronto.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      some of them were ukranians caught making a dash back to ukraine…

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            8 months ago

            Because Isis have never committed any terrorist attacks before right?

            If you’re going to make that claim you need to provide some evidence

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              8 months ago

              And because Islamic extremists have never committed attacks in Russie based on Russias actions in Syria (directly engaging ISIS) and Russias friendly relations with the taliban, who in turn hate ISIS.

              So many examples, but blaming the Americans/Ukranian/Europeans/InsertAnyOtherParty is just another way the Russian trolls sow chaos in an attempt to make everyone doubt reality.

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        8 months ago

        Of course it could be CIA connected but likely is a too strong word with the information available at this point. Russia is fucking around with many groups all over the world

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    8 months ago

    All appeared to have been beaten - videos of brutal interrogation sessions were apparently leaked by Russian security forces, and reports suggest at least one had suffered electric shocks.

    The men the court identified as Mirzoyev and Rachabalizoda had black eyes and the latter’s ear was heavily bandaged - reportedly from it being partially severed during his arrest.

    Mirzoyev also appeared to have a torn plastic bag wrapped around his neck.

    The face of the man identified as Fariduni was badly swollen, while the man named as Fayzov appeared to lose consciousness as he was brought into court in a wheelchair wearing a thin hospital gown.

    He appeared to have an eye missing, according to the Reuters news agency.

    A court statement on the Telegram messaging service said Mirzoyev had “admitted his guilt in full”, while Rachabalizoda also “admitted guilt”.

    Anyone will admit guilt if you do that to them. Is there any actual evidence that these men were the ones who attacked the concert hall?

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      8 months ago

      Nyt is showing stills from the videos compared to what they were wearing during arrest, clothing matches.

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        8 months ago

        Oh well I guess that’s definitive evidence then. Clothing is a unique unreplicatable item, everyone knows that.

        Russia didn’t even believe these attacks were going to take place, I refuse to believe that they’re able to catch the culprits this quickly, there’s a level of organization and skill that they’ve never previously demonstrated.

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          8 months ago

          I mean Occam’s razor and all.

          If you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole then please do… But I’m not sure why the nyt would benefit from continuing putins claim

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      8 months ago

      That is if you believe these are the actual perpetrators.

      It took an hour for security forces to reach the actual event but they catch the perps in 4 hours? Very sus.

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      8 months ago

      A week ago Russian didn’t even believe the terrorist attacks were going to happen, and now they found the perpetrators? Yeah sure