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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Plant-heavy ‘flexitarian’ diets could help limit global heating, study finds

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Plant-heavy ‘flexitarian’ diets could help limit global heating, study finds

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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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Global adoption of diet low in meat would aid health, land and food systems as well as reducing emissions, researchers say
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    I see, so doing something about it is the responsibility of consumers, not the companies who do it.

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      Both. But one you can change right now. At your next meal just choose vegan.

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        Which means either be rich or live a life eating nothing but beans and rice.

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          Beans, rice, tofu, lentils, mushrooms, chickpeas, nuts, seeds, many options and they’re all cheaper than flesh, and healthier for you and better for the environment.

          Choose one of those, and use the extra money to donate towards something that will undermine those capitalist trash.

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            Extra money. Donate. Must be nice to be rich. By the way, people who aren’t rich can often work two jobs. When do you think they have time to cook?

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              I don’t know where you live, but in the UK at least going vegan is cheaper than eating meat: https://www.kantar.com/uki/inspiration/consumer/how-popular-is-veganism-in-the-uk so if saving money is your (understandable) concern then swapping to ‘beans and rice’ as you put it is worth it.

              Same for the USA as well: https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/eating-vegan-diet-reduces-grocery-bill-16-savings-more-500-year-finds-new.

              In fact it’s almost a global solution: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

              They’re also quicker to prepare as well: https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/12/18/Vegan-meals-cheaper-and-quicker-than-meat-or-fish

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                It might be cheaper if you don’t live in a food desert and have time to cook.

                Neither of these are reasonable for many Americans.

                https://theconversation.com/time-to-cook-is-a-luxury-many-families-dont-have-117158

                https://www.aecf.org/blog/exploring-americas-food-deserts

                Veganism is a privilege that many people cannot have.

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                  What’s your point? Arguments for veganism only apply to those who can eat vegan. They obviously don’t apply to those that can’t. You concern re. food deserts is a very valid one but that isn’t a criticism of veganism, it’s benefits or its impact on the environment. Working to eliminate food deserts and improve nutritional options for everyone is a part of tackling climate change. For those Americans that do have access to some vegan options (about 80% of the population) going vegan or at least ‘flexitarian’ is cheaper, quicker, healthier and better for the environment.

                  In edition, your point about families having time, whilst valid, is again not a criticism of veganism, it’s a criticism of a multitude of wider societal issues.

                  Also, please bear in mind that the US is not the be-all-and-end-all when it comes to familial trends. In the UK for example, people are actually cooking at home more: https://brandclock.co.uk/scratch-cooking-in-the-uk-increasing/

                  Even in the US approx 64% of the population home cook: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/survey-reveals-81-of-consumers-now-cook-more-than-half-of-their-meals-at-home-302007657.html

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                    Didn’t this start with someone saying everyone should go vegan?

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              Eating beans, rice, lentils, peas, etc. is way cheaper than meat. A 4 lbs bag of chickpeas is $6 and provides 6,500 calories of mostly dietary fiber and protein.

              Cooking is something you have to do, just like laundry and washing yourself. I’m not sure if this is a western thing or what, but for most people in the world, the less money you have, the more you cook. Eating prepared foods and meat is expensive.

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                https://theconversation.com/time-to-cook-is-a-luxury-many-families-dont-have-117158

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert

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                  You can complain all you want about how poor you are that you can’t eat beans and lentils, but the entire world outside of US, Canada, and Western Europe is proof of the contrary.

                  It takes 20 minutes to cook lentils and rice. 30 to cook beans if you have a pressure cooker. These foods are dirt cheap, shelf stable, and sold everywhere. My local gas station sells Goya beans.

                  I’m sorry about your situation, but cooking and feeding yourself is just part of living whether vegan or not. This widespread idea in the US that being poor means you should be eating expensive unhealthy prepared meals is strange. It will only make your situation worse.

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                    This isn’t about my situation. Did you even read those links?

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      I think it’s important to make an honest assessment of what is, and what isn’t, under control of consumers. Reducing meat consumption is something that consumers actually can control, unlike say the massive environmental destruction caused by military.

      Corporations and other entities doing bad stuff does not absolve us of our own responsibility.

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      por que no los dos

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