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    A very dumb bubble that will pop and leave companies scrambling to be certified “AI Free” to gain customers and employees

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      So far, the only thing AI has shown to be pretty good at is summerizing a large amount of data, and even then it cant be fully trusted to not make mistakes.

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        AI is a tool, and one need to learn using it. But even today, just two years from introduction to the public (LLMs) it has lot’s of uses. This is one of the fastest adoption of nearly any technology.

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    the electricity bill for each query – to power the servers and their chillers – would still make running these giant models very expensive.

    This assumes there won’t be radical advances in cost-effective hardware to run the queries.

    AI proponents work precisely towards such advances: hardware tailored to running the best performing models, at far lower costs than current GPUs and GPU derivates.

    Something like “execute in RAM” neural network accelerators, could reduce query costs by several orders of magnitude.

    The fraud of the cryptocurrency bubble was far more pervasive than the fraud in the dotcom bubble, so much so that without the fraud, there’s almost nothing left.

    Ironically, what the crypto bubble left behind, was a surplus of GPUs, which got repurposed for AI… and just like crypto left GPUs to move onto purpose-built ASICs and other models like PoS instead of PoW, so does AI need to leave GPUs and move onto purpose-built hardware with better models (quantized NNs are a good example).

    As a tangent, we could talk about how the gaming industry has enabled a GPU industry that in turn has enabled these off-shots.

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    It’s really hard to know how this will play out. The models only have to improve a bit at this point to be reliably better than humans, as which time it probably makes sense to replace humans. It seems they will probably still hallucinate but do it little enough that it’s still a net gain to use them. Compute power needed to run them will surely come down.

    I’m as skeptical as the next guy, but I do think they will have uses, especially in examples like radiology which he he uses as a negative case. However I’m pretty sure it will eventually be able to do the initial screening to find the 95% of cases with nothing at a rate similar to existing medical diagnostic testing and then return the other 5% back to a human to review and decide further treatment. Based on my experience with speech language models, I’m pretty sure you’d be able to tweak the models to produce mostly false positives rather than false negatives and then run it through further layers of review afterwards.

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    Damn imagine paying to read an article to confirm your biases. If you’re going to claim something is a bubble you need to claim something more specific than “AI”.

    The entire early modern web was a bubble in the early 00s and it’s still here. There’s not even many large companies yet to even start being bubbly. An actual AI bubble could be 10 years off.

    I just love how so many educated and intelligent people can get stuck in knee jerk reactionary takes because some admittedly large aspects of a new technology (LLMs) are annoying as hell.

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      A point the article makes rather well is that something is not a bobble because it doesn’t work, but because the investment going into it is fundamentally irrational in scale. The web still existing has nothing to do if investment or companies tripping over themselves to advertise as a dotcom in the dotcom bobble was rational, percicly because it clearly wasn’t dispite the web being a fundamentally revolutionary tech.

      The question when it comes to LLM’s, the near exclusive subject of the marketing around AI, is if bunch of random companies paying for a mildly improved chat bot are actually going to generate enough profit once the marketing hype has worn off and the legal challenges settled to justify the current massive scale of investment, or if instead once the project managers and CEO’s have moved on to the next buzzword to attract investors LLM’s will become a tight market where providers struggle to turn a large enough profit to satisfy investors.

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      There is a free link in the comments, and your concerns are addressed in the first 3 paragraphs.

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      This bubble is quite bubbly. There is an AI company for anything and everything now. The market is almost fully saturated with “AI” everything.

      Just like the web bubble, all of the intsta-AI shops need to fail so the real tech can grow. AI is never going to go away, but most of the scam companies will fail in due time.

      We might have one big consolidation, or several. The hype will die and the quick money will disappear. It’s the same story, every time. One the magic AI box stops shitting out dollar bills, we should be good.

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    I didn’t wanna read the article nor the opinions in it, so I asked ChatGPT.

    AI can be seen as a bubble in the sense that there’s a lot of hype and excitement surrounding it, often leading to inflated expectations. However, there’s also substantial substance and potential for real impact. It’s important to navigate through the hype to understand both its capabilities and limitations.

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    Not one of his better articles. A lot of prevaricating with very little substance or conclusions. While AI investment is most certainly a bubble, few are taking into account the technology improving. This is a bone the tech dogs aren’t going to give up easily. They have a whiff of the possibility of AIG becoming a reality. Like all promising tech, the potential for long term damage is as, if not more so, catastrophic for society as the World Wide Web and social media. He’s looking at this as an echo of past Silicone Valley bubbles. It so much more than that.

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      They have a whiff of the possibility of AIG becoming a reality.

      They also had a wiff of NFTs letting them sell and claim royalties on JPEGs. This isn’t about some grand vision if humanity’s future, it’s about becoming the next Silicon Valley billionaire, or dethroning the richest man in the world. If the next big tech get-rich-quick scheme comes along, the novelty of their very expensive autocomplete and JPEG mashup projects will be dead, and they’ll take their dollrs on to the next fad.

      He’s looking at this as an echo of past Silicone Valley bubbles. It so much more than that.

      Citation-fucking-needed.

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        I didn’t say anything about a grand vision. And this has little to no connection to NFTs, other than the usual hyped tech investors.

        Citation-fucking-needed.

        That’s my opinion. You don’t have to agree. You also don’t have to be obnoxious.