• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Wars generally end when one side surrenders.

    Neither Israel nor Hamas wants to surrender, so there is no reason to expect a “permanent ceasefire”.

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      7 months ago

      A lot of wars have ended in a stalemate.

      And if Israel is just stopping the onslaught in Gaza it is not a surrender. They wouldn’t have given up anything.

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        7 months ago

        Wars end in stalemate when both sides agree that they cannot make further military advances. That’s not the case here.

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      7 months ago

      There have been multiple previous wars between Hamas and israel, and other parties like Lebanon, and it usually ends in a ceasefire.

      Israel saying they want keep committing Genocide after a 6 week break and then occupy Gaza isn’t exactly a great deal.

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          7 months ago

          Feels like israel slightly forgot why it always ended that way. Only lost them all international support and the rightful designation as the new Nazis. Has israel defeated Hamas yet?

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        7 months ago

        This is a lie, Israel doesn’t commit genocide.

        The IDF mission is to release hostages and take down Hamas.

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          7 months ago

          There is a pretty clear UN report proving israel is committing Genocide. Did you read it?

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            No I didn’t, I’d kindly appreciate if you can link this UN report (preferably not from a news agency)

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                7 months ago

                This is an “Advance unedited version” meaning it’s not officially published by the UN, it’s only shared for review.

                Additionally, Francesca Albanese drafted this document, multiple sources indicate about ther controversial and bias, as for the fact she justifies Hamas 7th Oct. massacre.

                Hence, Israel is not officially commiting a genocide, and your accusations of it are wrong.

                Please don’t spread lies.

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      7 months ago

      There will never be permanent ceasefire because Hamas dictate that Palestine, an area in which, over 2000 years, have been living more than dozens of ethnicities (i.e. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Ancient Greeks, Ancient Romans, Turkish, British…), is religiously and exclusively belong to only Arabic Muslim Palestinians.

      See my comment here: https://lemmy.one/comment/9181356